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Merely using a convenient example. Joel Send a noteboard - 27/04/2011 08:00:24 PM
This isn't a discussion about Bush, sorry.

I thought it especially illustrative because the thing I really disliked about him was that I always felt he made an effort to not make an effort to know the facts so he could truthfully say he didn't know better. That's just my subjective opinion, and there are plenty of other examples from both parties. Politicians from both parties seem to have routinely done it during Vietnam, accepting DoD reports at face value because they didn't want to confront the hard questions looking deeper would prompt.
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Obama's birthcert is out. - 27/04/2011 02:55:27 PM 1575 Views
But...but... - 27/04/2011 03:43:55 PM 1040 Views
Of course, that is why he has now released it - 27/04/2011 04:00:06 PM 888 Views
what's wrong with that? *NM* - 27/04/2011 04:06:45 PM 355 Views
sorry, didn't notice the underneath. *NM* - 27/04/2011 04:10:54 PM 392 Views
and a socialist *NM* - 27/04/2011 04:13:03 PM 477 Views
Even worse, he's a Democrat. - 27/04/2011 04:26:40 PM 927 Views
no reason to be redundant *NM* - 27/04/2011 04:30:59 PM 391 Views
Well, this thread reminded me I meant to comment on the other one this morning. - 27/04/2011 06:30:10 PM 921 Views
and you reply reminds why I should trying to discuss and issue with is such a chore - 27/04/2011 07:03:19 PM 832 Views
Merely using a convenient example. - 27/04/2011 08:00:24 PM 987 Views
I thought he was a communist? *NM* - 27/04/2011 11:07:24 PM 412 Views
socialist is the new communist *NM* - 28/04/2011 04:48:19 AM 407 Views
I am glad to see he finally released it - 27/04/2011 04:14:54 PM 841 Views
Hopefully. *NM* - 27/04/2011 06:28:00 PM 388 Views
good. now the only people who still question his citizenship will be professional nutjobs - 27/04/2011 04:30:16 PM 908 Views
"Professional nutjobs"; nice phrase. - 27/04/2011 06:47:51 PM 889 Views
So, no change, then. *NM* - 28/04/2011 02:06:08 PM 440 Views
no, it will simply require all the amateurs to either hang it up or turn pro *NM* - 28/04/2011 08:47:24 PM 385 Views
that was funny *NM* - 28/04/2011 08:50:53 PM 436 Views
This whole thing is amazingly annoying. - 27/04/2011 05:02:56 PM 932 Views
seconded *NM* - 27/04/2011 05:25:38 PM 393 Views
Thirded *NM* - 27/04/2011 05:37:21 PM 389 Views
Quaded. *NM* - 28/04/2011 03:55:30 PM 445 Views
...Pentupted? *NM* - 29/04/2011 05:03:21 AM 430 Views
Then you'll love this. - 28/04/2011 06:34:40 AM 1073 Views
His mother was only 18? Interesting. *NM* - 27/04/2011 07:04:40 PM 358 Views
It took long enough to forge it.....now let's see that college transcript. *NM* - 27/04/2011 08:04:55 PM 432 Views
*NM* - 27/04/2011 08:31:14 PM 467 Views
Honestly. *NM* - 27/04/2011 11:16:42 PM 379 Views
Re: Yeah man! - 27/04/2011 11:52:17 PM 1014 Views
You do know he was in the top ten percent of his class in Harvard Law right? *NM* - 28/04/2011 01:24:15 AM 412 Views
He was also an average student at an only decent undergrad school.....so how did he get..... - 28/04/2011 01:50:34 AM 959 Views
High LSAT scores. But please, tell us how you think law school admissions work. *NM* - 28/04/2011 04:35:40 AM 397 Views
*NM* - 28/04/2011 07:13:29 AM 395 Views
God knows I've spent enough time stressing about them lately. *NM* - 28/04/2011 08:07:23 AM 365 Views
You didn't answer the question - 28/04/2011 04:41:53 AM 846 Views
Why did it take so long for him to release it? - 28/04/2011 05:05:12 AM 918 Views
the issue should have never gotten so much momentum to begin with - 28/04/2011 06:19:50 AM 944 Views
the issue should have never gotten so much momentum to begin with - 28/04/2011 06:21:44 AM 873 Views
What should he release next? - 28/04/2011 03:03:58 PM 930 Views
DNA proving those are actually his parents *NM* - 28/04/2011 03:06:32 PM 363 Views
I am not joking, but that is impossible - 28/04/2011 04:00:17 PM 865 Views
Pshhh, you say it's impossible and then go on to explain how it could be done. - 28/04/2011 04:02:33 PM 902 Views
Might want to check his quantum signature for a match to the general populace as well. - 29/04/2011 01:28:22 AM 771 Views
You see that conspiracy theory actually makes sense - 29/04/2011 04:32:18 AM 826 Views
That thing is fake! You can tell easily by looking at the the... - 28/04/2011 04:08:53 PM 972 Views
The box that says "Hung: Like a fucking horse." is what tipped me off to him making it himself. *NM* - 29/04/2011 01:30:23 AM 424 Views
You mean that's not on all birth certificates? *NM* - 29/04/2011 02:26:37 PM 393 Views
I think it's the swearing that makes it suspicious. *NM* - 30/04/2011 12:30:09 AM 409 Views

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