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NP, happens. Joel Send a noteboard - 12/05/2011 01:09:18 AM
Couldn't resist. Long lurk, no see; how's tricks? Thoughts on the British referendum? How badly does the US need instant runoffs if Obama can't get an approval rating of 50% and the Republican House is lucky to get half that? Oh, and comments on my use of inexact polling in this thread are welcome if you want to avoid an outright threadjack. :P

What we need to institute is something condorcet complete like Borda. Borda's good.

Wikipedias example illustrates that: Fifty voters rank a right, center and left candidate. Thirty right voters rank them R-2, C-1, L-0. Twenty center left voters rank them C-2, L-1, R-0. The final tally is C-70, R-60, L-20. The center candidate wins despite a right majority, and despite the fact the right candidate would win a two candidate race against either of the others, so Borda isn't Condorcet complete either.

Further, tactical voting could (and, I suspect, often would) make a consensus second choice NO ONE chose first defeat a majority first choice. A simple example would be 50 people choosing 4 candidates. Thirty right voters rank them FR-4, CR-3, CL-2, FL-1. Twenty left voters vote tactically and rank them FL-4, CR-3, CL-2, FR-1. The final tally is FR-140, CR-150, CL-100, FL-110. The center right candidate wins despite a far right majority, and even though the far right candidate would win a two candidate election against any other, so once again, not Condorcet complete. If the minority doesn't vote tactically, the result is the same as an ideal FPtP system. Ironically, tactical FPtP voting means America already elects the least objectionable candidate in practice, so the only difference I see is that Borda is designed to produce PTtPs accidental result, and wouldn't really change much in the US.

In this list, monotonicity is the only thing I want that Borda has and Instant Runoff doesn't, but I prefer the IR guarantee of a majority and mutual majority winner Borda lacks. Without a mutual majority guarantee minorities voting the party to prevent the other side winning can reduce elections to moderate and far minority candidates (not that that ever happens in the US. :whistle: ) I realize chances a system WILL violate a criterion if it CAN are debateable, but that could go around in circles all day so I'm not going there. ;)

IRV bugs me inherently because it's possible for a candidate moving his stances in the direction of the majority of opinion to actually cause him to lose. See the link below.

In each one of those grids, consider each point to be a simulated "average opinion." If each person on the grid voted for the candidate which was closest to them on the grid in accordance with the candidates' positions (ranking, approval, etc) then the color of the grid at that point is who would end up winning. Now, yes, this assumes that every person has complete knowledge of all candidates and votes logically, which doesn't happen, but for the purpose of visualizing outcomes, it's useful.

Plurality and Hare (IRV) are both awful. Plurality squeezes out moderate candidates, while Hare is all over the place. Approval and Condorcet are basically identical in most cases, while Borda is very similar to both, but emphasizes the moderate candidates more.

I think it's just an interesting way of visually depicting who would win in each.

Put in those terms, I can see your point, but because I prefer the varies ranking systems to FPtP I'm (perhaps unduly) attached to later no harm, because without a guarantee people giving ANY vote to a less preferred candidate won't cause your most preferred one to lose it'll be hard to sell people on it and we'll be stuck with FPtP forever. If I could pick any one of the systems I've seen proposed I'd probably go with Ranked Pairs, but it seems too complex to get popular approval (a smart chimp could follow IR and a lot of people STILL have trouble with it. :rolleyes: ) Perhaps worse, it also doesn't guarantee you giving a lesser vote to someone you like less won't cost your favorite candidate the election. I can handle weird results as long as there's SOME logic to them, and if I'm following the graphs it seems like even in the most bizarre looking IR simulations IR a logic can be found.

For example, in the last (and weirdest looking) case there's a yellow triangle pretty much dead center of the red victory region. Since red has a greater y value and x value, if public opinion shifts from right of the triangle to the left it moves toward both while maintaining reds greater vertical distance; past a point yellows vertical advantage outweighs reds horizontal one and makes it the winner until public opinion is nearly even with red horizontally and red is again the winner. Effects of a vertical opinion shift are more pronounced because it increases the relative size of reds greater vertical distance, so less horizontal shift is generally necessary to make yellow the winner. The exception is that if the vertical position was always close to both red and yellow a horizontal shift left is more significant than an upward one and a win for yellow becomes a win for red. In all cases once public opinion gets VERY close to both vertical positions OR reds horizontal position red wins. The effect is a region of voters horizontally closer to red but occasionaly more concerned about reds greater vertical distance from yellow (despite being fairly distant from both themselves).

It's significant, I think, that in that simulation yellow has the LOWEST y value of the four AND is the closest candidate to red over all. It's a case where a single issue with strong public opinion can yield a surprising outcome, because if voters generally approve reds platform but are very extreme on that one issue red may not be close enough to their views, and they'll choose the most extreme candidate who's otherwise most like red. Red can only win if public opinion is VERY close to him on all other issues. In effect, it's a case where being moderate on EVERYTHING gets red beaten by a yellow candidate who's moderate on everything except the one issue on which the public is also extreme.

Maybe I'm fitting the data to my curve here; I can't be entirely sure, but that's my take: Just because the graph looks funny doesn't mean it's not representative, because electorates often look funny, too. Regardless, it looks like my choice ultimate choice is between systems that can penalize a candidate for shifting his position toward the majority or those that can penalize a voter for ranking candidates. Neither of those is ideal, obviously, but the former is less objectionable to me than the latter, particularly since it will take major public approval to implement either, and the general public will always be more concerned about hurting themselves than hurting their candidates.

After all that, I'm still very attached to mutual majority guarantees as well, because I still believe America's a center left country (at least in global terms) that's nonetheless had mostly center right and right Presidents since the war. To give you an idea of how strongly I feel about mutual majority, in 2000 I would've been happy with either Bradley or Gore (the Dem primary candidates), Nader (the Green nominee) or McCain (the GOP primary loser), but after six years of George Bush as my Governor the prospect of his presidency horrified me, yet the reality exceeded my worst nightmares. In my book, the Condorcet loser won, when a mutual majority system would've guaranteed me Nader, Gore or Bradely, all of whom would have eminently satisfied me. Given a choice between Condorcet completion or a mutual majority and later no harm guarantee, I'll miss monotonicity, but not as much as I'd miss the other two. ;)
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It's more than laziness, yes. - 11/05/2011 07:53:52 PM 1265 Views
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It's a high - 11/05/2011 10:28:02 PM 1075 Views
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I was mostly being a smart-ass about the laziness thing. - 12/05/2011 05:16:40 PM 1222 Views
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It's less about mistakes... - 12/05/2011 08:31:59 AM 1241 Views
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Yusssss!!1! *NM* - 12/05/2011 09:58:53 PM 670 Views
An option to not have to see those damn smileys - 11/05/2011 02:24:47 PM 1342 Views
Another thing! - 11/05/2011 05:35:10 PM 1259 Views
For the Quickpolls - 11/05/2011 10:22:23 PM 1244 Views
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Happens in Chrome and Firefox, too. *NM* - 12/05/2011 06:13:20 PM 692 Views
It's not, but a simple right-click and select "Open in new tab" does the job in FF, at least. - 12/05/2011 10:40:27 PM 1303 Views
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More references of MGB being the badass he is. *NM* - 13/05/2011 04:57:59 AM 729 Views
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Two things: facebook and searching within a post - 13/05/2011 03:07:37 PM 1289 Views
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I use chrome - 13/05/2011 09:47:06 PM 1204 Views
Also, re: quickpoll - 15/05/2011 04:18:04 PM 1227 Views
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We have to. - 15/05/2011 08:37:01 PM 1274 Views
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Of what, exactly? You have no discernible skills beside account corruption. *NM* - 13/05/2011 06:27:51 PM 758 Views
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~silence granted, throws peanuts~ *NM* - 15/05/2011 07:39:50 PM 628 Views
OFF with your HEAD! *NM* - 16/05/2011 08:06:27 PM 633 Views
Since I don't think anyone else has mentioned it here - HTML - 15/05/2011 09:00:39 PM 1401 Views
Mapthis made something like this. - 15/05/2011 09:25:59 PM 1161 Views
He did. I'd forgotten that - 15/05/2011 09:27:39 PM 1253 Views
WYSIWYG! *NM* - 27/05/2011 02:25:49 PM 703 Views
is inherently evil. *NM* - 27/05/2011 02:40:51 PM 611 Views
...and yet inherently accessible to the non-geek masses - 30/05/2011 02:34:58 AM 1249 Views
As I said... - 30/05/2011 08:55:32 AM 1268 Views
A redesigned home page! - 22/05/2011 04:26:27 AM 1278 Views
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I'm helpful - 04/07/2011 12:40:08 PM 1335 Views
Mobile version *NM* - 02/06/2011 12:42:25 AM 725 Views
Make quote options more prominent - 13/06/2011 02:21:36 PM 1176 Views
The ability to block someone on a certain board? - 17/06/2011 06:48:41 PM 1252 Views
I would like notification when a premium account downgrades - 18/06/2011 10:42:56 AM 1344 Views
We've already got the Facebook "Like" button, however - 26/06/2011 12:06:51 AM 1277 Views
Unhh... Privacy statement? - 19/07/2011 06:14:49 PM 1176 Views
"Rules" would be a better place, IMHO; we're told at least one of those links should soon work. - 22/07/2011 04:08:54 PM 1201 Views
Thanks for the response / comment, Josh - 23/07/2011 08:59:02 AM 1128 Views
I assume it just means people are too busy working on the site to answer immediately. - 23/07/2011 02:06:48 PM 1170 Views
or at all? - 02/08/2011 12:44:15 PM 1268 Views
Hey, you're preaching to the choir on that one. - 02/08/2011 01:40:43 PM 1389 Views
Admins should be able to move Posts into an already existing thread - 20/07/2011 02:52:05 PM 1208 Views
+1. *NM* - 20/07/2011 03:29:57 PM 627 Views
the ability to empty your outbox - 30/07/2011 04:19:17 PM 1263 Views

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