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I hate weighing in on these arguments. But fine. Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 12/05/2011 07:08:46 AM
Mostly to quiet the people shouting that those of us who like this layout are unfamiliar with any style other than this, which is something that I find immensely irritating.

I have been an active forumgoer for the past seven years. Active meaning spending over an hour a day online on message boards. And I'm saying "over an hour a day" because actually disclosing how much time I spend on these things would be incredibly embarrassing. In that time, I've amassed several thousands of posts on a variety of message boards, all with their own styles. I've been a regular on phpBB boards, I'm more familiar with image boards than I have any comfort being, and my general browsing has exposed me to a huge variety of commenting systems that don't fit into any neat category (Slashdot, Gawker, &c.). And that's just message boards. I'm leaving out chat rooms.

So let's get this nonsense out of the way: there is a very, very slim chance that I am less familiar with these things than you are.

Now, on to actual reasons why this message board is nice. The largest thing that you've left out, which other people have hinted at but haven't actually said outright, is that the structure of our board allows for much less moderation than phpbb. The linearity of normal message board styles means that threads that go off-topic either have to be written off as a loss, meaning that the OP goes without his/her topic being discussed, or locked by a moderator. This is why most fora have a "serious business" section, where topics are strictly moderated so that they don't go off the rails.

This has its benefits. It allows for an intense discussion of the topic. However, it also means posts can get lost in the flood, and very little actually ends up getting said. Because one isn't allowed to go-off topic, it's rare that really interesting discussions happen. Here, where discussions evolve more naturally, you can see a healthier flow of conversation.

To sum it up briefly, RAFO is the only place I know of where threadjacking is an honored tradition, as opposed to something relegated to a "random" board. The reason you've encountered such vehemence (aside from the fairly snide tone you've taken throughout this discussion, which at the very least has put my hackles up) is because the threadjacks and Friday Cafes were things that really drew people close together on WoTmania, and they can't exist on a phpBB board in the way they exist here.
"We feel safe when we read what we recognise, what does not challenge our way of thinking.... a steady acceptance of pre-arranged patterns leads to the inability to question what we are told."
~Camilla

Ghavrel is Ghavrel is Ghavrel

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I was sure I'd responded to this; sorry for the delay. - 22/07/2011 04:14:11 PM 1700 Views
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I feel a little less adoration =P - 10/05/2011 12:11:37 AM 1836 Views
see, and I think it enhances my appreciation of the posts. - 10/05/2011 12:15:21 AM 1575 Views
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it's a bug, not a feature - 11/05/2011 06:45:29 PM 1711 Views
More than 3 reasons. - 12/05/2011 06:37:59 AM 1627 Views
I hate weighing in on these arguments. But fine. - 12/05/2011 07:08:46 AM 1802 Views
Well put - 12/05/2011 08:20:18 AM 1807 Views
My filter is broken then. - 11/05/2011 09:02:07 AM 1619 Views
One comment that hasn't been raised yet. - 11/05/2011 10:41:25 PM 1662 Views
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NP, happens. - 12/05/2011 01:09:18 AM 1661 Views
Smiley Reduction/Alteration? - 09/05/2011 07:30:25 PM 1439 Views
Also with quotes and close brackets. <---- This is WEIRD. - 09/05/2011 07:34:13 PM 1596 Views
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Or turn the TV & Movie board into a pop culture board we'd just need to get rid of the rubbish admin - 09/05/2011 09:13:41 PM 1717 Views
Stop being a brat! - 09/05/2011 09:57:35 PM 1742 Views
But it is Jens! - 09/05/2011 10:16:23 PM 1684 Views
aka Best admin ever. - 09/05/2011 10:28:40 PM 1605 Views
aka Best admin ever. - 09/05/2011 10:28:40 PM 1572 Views
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Yup, sorry other admins. - 10/05/2011 01:42:45 AM 1733 Views
"Oh. my. fucking. god." - 09/05/2011 10:29:17 PM 1729 Views
Re: I think it wouldn't be used much. - 09/05/2011 08:36:05 PM 1717 Views
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Re: i agree - 10/05/2011 03:56:36 PM 1375 Views
Also - 10/05/2011 03:58:56 PM 1679 Views
collapsing of extended thread nests - 09/05/2011 11:09:23 PM 1620 Views
^This. *NM* - 12/05/2011 07:45:46 PM 924 Views
Thirded *NM* - 27/05/2011 01:39:44 PM 881 Views
Quick question, how many users are registered here? *NM* - 10/05/2011 01:38:37 AM 1713 Views
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It doesn't - 13/05/2011 10:29:32 AM 1742 Views
PINK!! - 10/05/2011 03:27:35 AM 1633 Views
Anyone else notice that everyone replying participates on the book, tv + movies and comm boards - 10/05/2011 02:18:08 PM 1674 Views
Indeed. *NM* - 10/05/2011 03:53:23 PM 858 Views
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But they are - 10/05/2011 04:53:26 PM 1610 Views
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You are clearly wrong. - 12/05/2011 04:58:34 PM 1466 Views
Its prime ended before the split? Bah, you old geezers always hassle us kids for livin' our life! - 12/05/2011 07:32:02 PM 1673 Views
Nah. - 16/05/2011 08:32:39 PM 1626 Views
Hard to imagine what that must've been like. - 18/05/2011 11:04:57 PM 1687 Views
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I disagree - 10/05/2011 10:34:54 PM 1693 Views
Re: your suggestions - 10/05/2011 11:03:00 PM 1526 Views
Re: your suggestions - 11/05/2011 01:37:34 AM 1700 Views
Re: your suggestions - 11/05/2011 08:24:38 AM 1489 Views
It's just that... - 11/05/2011 06:04:46 PM 1611 Views
Agreed on all points *NM* - 11/05/2011 05:54:52 PM 904 Views
Whoa. You can change quote styles? News to me. *NM* - 11/05/2011 10:02:10 PM 884 Views
It's all there, in the help section at the top of the board. - 12/05/2011 04:50:44 PM 1568 Views
Shush, you. *NM* - 13/05/2011 08:56:05 AM 906 Views
The next time we meet up - 13/05/2011 09:19:01 AM 1610 Views
Anything would be better than nothing. - 13/05/2011 05:48:03 PM 1619 Views
Regarding the forum style - 10/05/2011 11:17:50 PM 2135 Views
+3 *NM* - 10/05/2011 11:35:10 PM 910 Views
Look here! - 11/05/2011 01:25:25 AM 1586 Views
+100 *NM* - 11/05/2011 01:59:30 AM 813 Views
I think that sounds like an excellent middle ground! *NM* - 11/05/2011 04:22:12 AM 889 Views
I agree with the agreement. - 11/05/2011 05:02:44 AM 5072 Views
That sounds an acceptable compromise to me - 11/05/2011 05:32:43 PM 1550 Views
Just an observation/question about post-clicking - 11/05/2011 05:42:30 PM 1670 Views
Re: Just an observation/question about post-clicking - 11/05/2011 06:06:24 PM 1706 Views
Yes. Though it's not just laziness. - 11/05/2011 06:20:50 PM 1510 Views
It's more than laziness, yes. - 11/05/2011 07:53:52 PM 1639 Views
Try laying off the refresh button if you can help it. *NM* - 11/05/2011 08:52:56 PM 942 Views
It's a high - 11/05/2011 10:28:02 PM 1470 Views
Sorry, internet keeps disconnecting when I hit "submit". - 11/05/2011 11:31:52 PM 1688 Views
I was mostly being a smart-ass about the laziness thing. - 12/05/2011 05:16:40 PM 1578 Views
Cool. - 12/05/2011 07:20:49 PM 1595 Views
I used to have to do that - 16/05/2011 08:26:47 AM 2261 Views
Yeah, that sounds familiar. - 16/05/2011 09:15:56 PM 1701 Views
Active Users: 51 - 11/05/2011 01:19:25 AM 1642 Views
Also - 11/05/2011 04:36:17 AM 1674 Views
OoOoo... I like this. *NM* - 11/05/2011 06:25:20 AM 928 Views
Re: Active Users: 51 - 14/06/2011 12:11:43 AM 1551 Views
I wonder if there is a way to make the Search function work... - 11/05/2011 09:56:54 AM 1543 Views
There is an easy fix for that. - 11/05/2011 06:09:10 PM 1659 Views
It's less about mistakes... - 12/05/2011 08:31:59 AM 1594 Views
- 12/05/2011 10:27:57 AM 1621 Views
Yusssss!!1! *NM* - 12/05/2011 09:58:53 PM 880 Views
An option to not have to see those damn smileys - 11/05/2011 02:24:47 PM 1690 Views
Another thing! - 11/05/2011 05:35:10 PM 1648 Views
For the Quickpolls - 11/05/2011 10:22:23 PM 1623 Views
Good idea. - 11/05/2011 11:30:41 PM 1655 Views
Writing page Writing page WRITING PAGE! *NM* - 12/05/2011 01:15:32 AM 961 Views
Links in posts - can they not take us to a new page but to a new tab/window, please? - 12/05/2011 05:49:23 PM 1719 Views
Happens in Chrome and Firefox, too. *NM* - 12/05/2011 06:13:20 PM 896 Views
It's not, but a simple right-click and select "Open in new tab" does the job in FF, at least. - 12/05/2011 10:40:27 PM 1664 Views
Clicking links with your scroll wheel opens them in a new tab. *NM* - 12/05/2011 11:32:29 PM 932 Views
As does CTRL-click. *NM* - 13/05/2011 07:14:56 AM 1135 Views
I'd like to know when the last post in a thread was. - 13/05/2011 01:14:02 AM 1654 Views
Like back on wotmania? - 13/05/2011 09:02:33 AM 1609 Views
More references of MGB being the badass he is. *NM* - 13/05/2011 04:57:59 AM 948 Views
some kind of "reply all" feature? - 13/05/2011 06:35:15 AM 1656 Views
Two things: facebook and searching within a post - 13/05/2011 03:07:37 PM 1626 Views
I agree. Not the facebook nonsense, but... - 13/05/2011 03:15:24 PM 1674 Views
+1, especially the FB part. - 13/05/2011 04:46:05 PM 1495 Views
I can add a comment for Facebook liking. - 13/05/2011 06:48:16 PM 1882 Views
Maybe it's another IE vs. Firefox thing. - 13/05/2011 08:52:53 PM 1762 Views
I use chrome - 13/05/2011 09:47:06 PM 1576 Views
Also, re: quickpoll - 15/05/2011 04:18:04 PM 1601 Views
and I'd love to be able to "like" it to facebook *NM* - 15/05/2011 04:55:46 PM 844 Views
Ick... you said the f-word. *NM* - 15/05/2011 08:23:16 PM 888 Views
We have to. - 15/05/2011 08:37:01 PM 1660 Views
Make me an Admin! - 13/05/2011 04:17:59 PM 1687 Views
Of what, exactly? You have no discernible skills beside account corruption. *NM* - 13/05/2011 06:27:51 PM 970 Views
I demand silence from the peanut gallery! *NM* - 15/05/2011 02:25:52 AM 866 Views
~silence granted, throws peanuts~ *NM* - 15/05/2011 07:39:50 PM 835 Views
OFF with your HEAD! *NM* - 16/05/2011 08:06:27 PM 837 Views
Since I don't think anyone else has mentioned it here - HTML - 15/05/2011 09:00:39 PM 1762 Views
Mapthis made something like this. - 15/05/2011 09:25:59 PM 1531 Views
He did. I'd forgotten that - 15/05/2011 09:27:39 PM 1624 Views
WYSIWYG! *NM* - 27/05/2011 02:25:49 PM 943 Views
is inherently evil. *NM* - 27/05/2011 02:40:51 PM 819 Views
...and yet inherently accessible to the non-geek masses - 30/05/2011 02:34:58 AM 1633 Views
As I said... - 30/05/2011 08:55:32 AM 1612 Views
A redesigned home page! - 22/05/2011 04:26:27 AM 1641 Views
This isn't particularly helpful. - 30/05/2011 11:28:46 PM 1689 Views
I'm helpful - 04/07/2011 12:40:08 PM 1746 Views
Mobile version *NM* - 02/06/2011 12:42:25 AM 951 Views
Make quote options more prominent - 13/06/2011 02:21:36 PM 1493 Views
The ability to block someone on a certain board? - 17/06/2011 06:48:41 PM 1613 Views
I would like notification when a premium account downgrades - 18/06/2011 10:42:56 AM 1682 Views
We've already got the Facebook "Like" button, however - 26/06/2011 12:06:51 AM 1642 Views
Unhh... Privacy statement? - 19/07/2011 06:14:49 PM 1529 Views
"Rules" would be a better place, IMHO; we're told at least one of those links should soon work. - 22/07/2011 04:08:54 PM 1557 Views
Thanks for the response / comment, Josh - 23/07/2011 08:59:02 AM 1516 Views
I assume it just means people are too busy working on the site to answer immediately. - 23/07/2011 02:06:48 PM 1539 Views
or at all? - 02/08/2011 12:44:15 PM 1643 Views
Hey, you're preaching to the choir on that one. - 02/08/2011 01:40:43 PM 1780 Views
Admins should be able to move Posts into an already existing thread - 20/07/2011 02:52:05 PM 1589 Views
+1. *NM* - 20/07/2011 03:29:57 PM 845 Views
the ability to empty your outbox - 30/07/2011 04:19:17 PM 1623 Views

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