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Early Christians and Jews were obsessed with purity Roland00 Send a noteboard - 10/06/2011 12:56:58 PM
Early Christians and Jews were obsessed with purity. The pharisees at the time were obsessed with it and the proper way of doing things to become/remain pure. (I know you have read Nietzsche before, Nietzsche gave psychological reasons why these people were obsessed with purity.)

But here is an example of an old testament baptism in narrative fashion, where the water cured the man (2 Kings 5).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naaman
And the Jewish ritual that would later become the source of baptism to the Christians
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikvah
Note that John the Baptist and Jesus changed the Jewish ritual of Mikvah to the current sacrament of Baptism, for more info see here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptism_in_early_Christianity
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I took a holy dip into the Ganges - 10/06/2011 11:48:26 AM 680 Views
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He dances and dips in The Ganges- Very Nice. *NM* - 11/06/2011 02:15:41 AM 254 Views
Three dips - that's the ceremony. - 11/06/2011 02:35:43 AM 539 Views
Early Christians and Jews were obsessed with purity - 10/06/2011 12:56:58 PM 713 Views
Oh, I know about the historical/academic/anthropological reason - 10/06/2011 01:04:43 PM 655 Views
I misunderstood, lets try again - 10/06/2011 01:44:43 PM 742 Views
Huh. *NM* - 10/06/2011 02:06:58 PM 299 Views
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Do you want a theological answer or a historical one? - 10/06/2011 03:16:44 PM 761 Views
The theological. I already had a fairly good idea of the historical - 10/06/2011 03:18:51 PM 616 Views
My favorite fact about baptism is that is REQUIRES water... but it can be ANY water - 10/06/2011 04:31:12 PM 695 Views
That is absurd. - 10/06/2011 08:37:13 PM 799 Views
It is absurd - 10/06/2011 08:56:19 PM 621 Views
When your post is eviscerated, resorting to "HURR RELIGION IS DUMB" isn't a winning move. - 10/06/2011 10:00:39 PM 725 Views
Psh.You can dress it up with spiritualism and semantics, but the concept boils down to "magic water" - 11/06/2011 03:56:03 AM 585 Views
The point is that it's a symbol. - 11/06/2011 04:45:19 AM 588 Views
I have no problem with water as a symbol - 11/06/2011 04:59:52 AM 661 Views
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Beliefs about holy water are internally logical. - 11/06/2011 07:36:08 PM 653 Views
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I never thought of it in that way, that is why I like this site *NM* - 12/06/2011 04:26:40 PM 275 Views
Because we are all nuts in our own special ways? *NM* - 12/06/2011 04:36:03 PM 248 Views

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