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Early Christians and Jews were obsessed with purity Roland00 Send a noteboard - 10/06/2011 12:56:58 PM
Early Christians and Jews were obsessed with purity. The pharisees at the time were obsessed with it and the proper way of doing things to become/remain pure. (I know you have read Nietzsche before, Nietzsche gave psychological reasons why these people were obsessed with purity.)

But here is an example of an old testament baptism in narrative fashion, where the water cured the man (2 Kings 5).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naaman
And the Jewish ritual that would later become the source of baptism to the Christians
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikvah
Note that John the Baptist and Jesus changed the Jewish ritual of Mikvah to the current sacrament of Baptism, for more info see here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptism_in_early_Christianity
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I don't follow. - 10/06/2011 11:08:07 AM 653 Views
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I don't keep up with RC theology much. - 10/06/2011 11:15:52 AM 667 Views
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You haven't necessarily developed a wrong impression. - 10/06/2011 11:50:53 AM 695 Views
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I took a holy dip into the Ganges - 10/06/2011 11:48:26 AM 743 Views
Re: I took a holy dip into the Ganges - 10/06/2011 11:54:17 AM 818 Views
He dances and dips in The Ganges- Very Nice. *NM* - 11/06/2011 02:15:41 AM 282 Views
Three dips - that's the ceremony. - 11/06/2011 02:35:43 AM 610 Views
Early Christians and Jews were obsessed with purity - 10/06/2011 12:56:58 PM 769 Views
Oh, I know about the historical/academic/anthropological reason - 10/06/2011 01:04:43 PM 707 Views
I misunderstood, lets try again - 10/06/2011 01:44:43 PM 801 Views
Huh. *NM* - 10/06/2011 02:06:58 PM 334 Views
A first responce - 10/06/2011 02:09:32 PM 861 Views
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Do you want a theological answer or a historical one? - 10/06/2011 03:16:44 PM 854 Views
The theological. I already had a fairly good idea of the historical - 10/06/2011 03:18:51 PM 689 Views
My favorite fact about baptism is that is REQUIRES water... but it can be ANY water - 10/06/2011 04:31:12 PM 758 Views
That is absurd. - 10/06/2011 08:37:13 PM 851 Views
It is absurd - 10/06/2011 08:56:19 PM 699 Views
When your post is eviscerated, resorting to "HURR RELIGION IS DUMB" isn't a winning move. - 10/06/2011 10:00:39 PM 778 Views
Psh.You can dress it up with spiritualism and semantics, but the concept boils down to "magic water" - 11/06/2011 03:56:03 AM 640 Views
The point is that it's a symbol. - 11/06/2011 04:45:19 AM 649 Views
I have no problem with water as a symbol - 11/06/2011 04:59:52 AM 716 Views
You are totally missing the point. - 11/06/2011 02:46:08 PM 806 Views
Which again, is something that sounds nice and spiritual, but doesn't actually make any sense - 11/06/2011 03:46:51 PM 778 Views
your problem is you're trying to apply objective logic to religion - 11/06/2011 04:13:01 PM 1030 Views
I'm not, exactly. Religion has internal logic. For example, certain things are "unclean" - 11/06/2011 04:40:33 PM 666 Views
Beliefs about holy water are internally logical. - 11/06/2011 07:36:08 PM 715 Views
Shrug. It was on topic. - 11/06/2011 08:06:16 PM 984 Views
Baptism is almost, if not entirely, symbolic. - 11/06/2011 10:23:02 AM 861 Views
Re: Baptism is almost, if not entirely, symbolic. - 11/06/2011 11:51:22 AM 840 Views
I never thought of it in that way, that is why I like this site *NM* - 12/06/2011 04:26:40 PM 321 Views
Because we are all nuts in our own special ways? *NM* - 12/06/2011 04:36:03 PM 277 Views

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