Sorry, as an advocate of civil rights (which especially includes minorities) I oppose anarchy.
Joel Send a noteboard - 06/07/2011 01:18:19 AM
Your right to swing your arm ends where it intersects my nose; it's hard to make a compelling case that forcing people to wear helmets protects the rights of others more than it infringes on theirs. Anarchy is actually better represented by the kind of mob rule that demands such things; it simply replaces individual might making right with collective might making right. However, whether it's a lion stalking a herd of gazelles or a swarm of wasps killing a lion it's still just replacing rule of law with rule of force.
Honorbound and honored to be Bonded to Mahtaliel Sedai
Last First in wotmania Chat
Slightly better than chocolate.
Love still can't be coerced.
Please Don't Eat the Newbies!
LoL. Be well, RAFOlk.
Last First in wotmania Chat
Slightly better than chocolate.
Love still can't be coerced.
Please Don't Eat the Newbies!

LoL. Be well, RAFOlk.
You can't make this stuff up: Helmet law protester dies in crash
- 05/07/2011 08:47:14 PM
1114 Views
Kinda undermines his protest
*NM*
- 05/07/2011 09:01:50 PM
338 Views
*NM*
- 05/07/2011 09:01:50 PM
338 Views
How so? He wasn't demanding the right to survive crashes when only a helmet makes that possible.
- 05/07/2011 11:06:44 PM
754 Views
New York feels that people should have to wear helmets for their own safety
- 05/07/2011 11:20:36 PM
703 Views
He felt his own safety was his own concern.
- 06/07/2011 12:07:05 AM
646 Views
Who do you think would have ended up paying for his care for the rest of his life if the accident
- 06/07/2011 01:08:49 AM
811 Views
The same people who pay for everyone else whose actions render them vegetables.
- 06/07/2011 01:50:20 AM
919 Views
Maybe a more effective argument you could use against me would be pointing out
- 06/07/2011 02:33:21 AM
719 Views
what a fricking idiot
- 05/07/2011 10:02:17 PM
889 Views
That's your opinion to which you're entitled.
- 05/07/2011 11:19:36 PM
1144 Views
Anarchy, baby! *NM*
- 06/07/2011 12:58:23 AM
565 Views
Sorry, as an advocate of civil rights (which especially includes minorities) I oppose anarchy.
- 06/07/2011 01:18:19 AM
802 Views
The public's nose is on the line here too.
- 06/07/2011 01:47:08 AM
872 Views
So my increased ease of hearing/seeing vehicles and other hazards isn't worth $1200.
- 06/07/2011 02:25:53 AM
872 Views
I understand the pov, I had a BF who felt that same way. It's still much like childish defiance.
- 06/07/2011 01:26:15 AM
1040 Views
In part it's a matter of principle, but if we really want to analyze it there's some deeper validity
- 06/07/2011 02:13:05 AM
838 Views
you keep spreading falsehoods, stop it please
- 06/07/2011 02:49:01 AM
991 Views
Sounds like your real argument is with the other bikers; I'm just reiterating their arguments.
- 06/07/2011 03:38:39 AM
926 Views
Uh Joel...
- 06/07/2011 03:38:24 AM
751 Views
Agreed, having others in the car does make a difference.
- 06/07/2011 03:47:53 AM
816 Views
Hence why your "I wouldn't wear a seatbelt in the back seat" comment didn't make a lot of sense
- 06/07/2011 07:38:50 PM
793 Views
- 06/07/2011 07:38:50 PM
793 Views
Depends on whether the driver, rather than the law, is the one insisting.
- 06/07/2011 08:06:24 PM
662 Views
You'd place your own comfort over other people's safety?
- 06/07/2011 11:37:00 PM
692 Views
It's more a comfort issue than anything else; it's not solely one.
- 06/07/2011 11:56:28 PM
1177 Views
Hold the phone here...
- 06/07/2011 07:49:10 PM
1140 Views
+1 *NM*
- 06/07/2011 08:42:14 PM
399 Views
You agree with him that the abortion debate is about a mothers convenience versus the babys life?
- 06/07/2011 10:48:52 PM
833 Views
im not bringing abortion into this, its a separate issue *NM*
- 06/07/2011 10:56:17 PM
394 Views
It's really not.
- 07/07/2011 12:20:10 AM
841 Views
i'm really not
- 07/07/2011 03:34:23 PM
939 Views
Fine as far as it goes, but public/private only matters to the extent others are affected.
- 09/07/2011 11:15:33 AM
892 Views
Holding the phone here might be good, yes....
- 06/07/2011 10:33:46 PM
909 Views
- 06/07/2011 10:33:46 PM
909 Views
See...that's the difference between you and me
- 06/07/2011 10:56:53 PM
1004 Views
Apparently so; "completely anarchy as long as its regulated to one's body" sounds nonsensical to me.
- 06/07/2011 11:44:50 PM
986 Views
I'm with Joel. I always buckle up/helmet up, but I think such laws are asinine
- 06/07/2011 02:30:04 AM
664 Views
why not just ban motorcycles all together, they are much more dangerous than cars
- 06/07/2011 05:39:51 PM
694 Views
Helmets help save lives. 'Onest.
- 07/07/2011 04:40:42 PM
869 Views
So do not smoking, eating right and regular exercise, but we haven't made them mandatory.
- 09/07/2011 11:04:58 AM
845 Views

*NM*