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Agree on the first part snoopcester Send a noteboard - 09/08/2011 01:05:01 PM
On being the 1st to try and score cheap political points. He seems to think this is a backlash against the upper class and the man from the disenfranchised in society. Honestly what world does he live in, it's a bunch of thugs who think it's funny to burn stuff, hit stuff and nick stuff, and nothing more.

They wouldn't even know who or what the man is, never mind having the wherewithal to lash against him.


He pissed me off a fair bit with using this as part of his election campaign. He did make fair points though - Boris should have been back after Saturday night and I think he is quite right that disenfranchisement is a major factor in this. I don't recall him just saying it was about sticking it to the man but that it was that they felt society didn't give them anything so they didn't feel they had any duty to it.

Some sel important idiot in the Torygraph got straight into the cheap points scoring as well - he accepts there were many factors involved... but he's going to attack multiculturalism and heap all the blame on people who back it.
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London snoopcester - 08/08/2011 12:08:35 PM 1924 Views
i freaked out when i heard about that Yunalesca - 08/08/2011 02:09:10 PM 1153 Views
Re: i freaked out when i heard about that snoopcester - 08/08/2011 02:47:16 PM 1000 Views
It's pretty scary. Rebekah - 08/08/2011 02:19:51 PM 1026 Views
I found it somewhat last night, having a sister who lives in Brixton snoopcester - 08/08/2011 02:50:57 PM 1038 Views
I'm sure the media will manage to blame the police somehow Wibble - 08/08/2011 03:11:40 PM 945 Views
I've been following the story. Spriteling - 08/08/2011 03:26:51 PM 988 Views
I cannot quite make out what is going on Camilla - 08/08/2011 03:27:57 PM 1145 Views
No, that's about it as far as we know Wibble - 08/08/2011 03:40:15 PM 1177 Views
Re: I cannot quite make out what is going on snoopcester - 08/08/2011 03:40:21 PM 1038 Views
Continue to use live ammunition until no one is protesting. *NM* Tom - 08/08/2011 03:53:50 PM 534 Views
Sounds good to me *NM* Wibble - 08/08/2011 04:06:04 PM 515 Views
Okay, bored of these riots now, time for the police to follow 10CCs example... Wibble - 08/08/2011 09:28:36 PM 1080 Views
Given what has been reported snoopcester - 08/08/2011 04:07:13 PM 1099 Views
So, did the original suspect have a gun/fire bullets? beetnemesis - 09/08/2011 04:19:16 PM 1079 Views
Had a gun, didn't fire snoopcester - 09/08/2011 06:51:54 PM 1017 Views
Not actually true Wibble - 09/08/2011 07:01:33 PM 986 Views
Seems it isn't exactly but I'm not sure your reply is 100% true either snoopcester - 09/08/2011 07:27:00 PM 1091 Views
Now that's a good point Wibble - 09/08/2011 07:45:26 PM 1050 Views
I think with both they're putting disclaimers in snoopcester - 09/08/2011 08:56:17 PM 1095 Views
There's no evidence he didn't fire? Imagine that. Joel - 09/08/2011 11:22:05 PM 995 Views
He's saying the evidence available is inconclusive either way. Rebekah - 09/08/2011 11:37:06 PM 1063 Views
Fair enough. Joel - 09/08/2011 11:56:16 PM 1116 Views
There are various proofs snoopcester - 10/08/2011 12:06:41 AM 1006 Views
True, but if tests are inconclusive rather than merely incomplete those proofs may not be available. Joel - 10/08/2011 12:47:34 AM 1034 Views
Bullshit Wibble - 10/08/2011 01:12:46 AM 898 Views
If that's the case it's hard to say they overreacted. Joel - 10/08/2011 01:22:45 AM 895 Views
I do see why it matters if he fired or not random thoughts - 10/08/2011 12:46:12 AM 957 Views
Again, I don't know the British standard, so I can only guess how it works. Joel - 10/08/2011 12:54:20 AM 1044 Views
Though if he had a gun, in a sock, not drawn... beetnemesis - 10/08/2011 01:50:05 AM 1003 Views
sadly the rioters didn't wait for facts random thoughts - 10/08/2011 02:56:46 AM 1138 Views
They've announced that the "unknown" gun was never fired beetnemesis - 10/08/2011 02:04:26 PM 992 Views
So? Are the police supposed to let him get the first shot? *NM* random thoughts - 10/08/2011 03:15:59 PM 542 Views
...said Gaddafi. *NM* Tim - 10/08/2011 12:11:31 AM 516 Views
And?... *NM* Wibble - 10/08/2011 12:17:51 AM 492 Views
And we just went to war with him because he was shooting people in the street. Tim - 10/08/2011 09:56:07 AM 1032 Views
Last time I checked, you guys have a vote. First past the post, sure, but it's still a vote. Tom - 10/08/2011 04:33:07 AM 974 Views
Is there any other country that has a death penalty for children caught stealing? *NM* Tim - 10/08/2011 10:02:56 AM 540 Views
Maybe not, but we can hope there is... *NM* Tom - 10/08/2011 02:04:38 PM 478 Views
You can hope there is. Tim - 10/08/2011 02:21:17 PM 992 Views
...you guys need a poster named Tam, and a sitcom, stat. *NM* beetnemesis - 10/08/2011 05:11:57 PM 530 Views
+1 Yunalesca - 10/08/2011 05:17:22 PM 1007 Views
Wibble is called Tam (Scots) or Tom (English), and used to go by dragon_tam. Tim - 10/08/2011 05:27:16 PM 1098 Views
LMAO *NM* Aisha - 10/08/2011 06:22:11 PM 533 Views
If you want to talk statistics... Tom - 13/08/2011 08:26:39 PM 952 Views
So the death penalty is a deterrent for the crimes it doesn't apply to, but not for those it does? Tim - 14/08/2011 10:58:14 AM 1135 Views
No, that wasn't my point. Tom - 14/08/2011 09:39:14 PM 1111 Views
light yagami felt the same way Yunalesca - 14/08/2011 01:20:02 PM 1110 Views
Please speak English. *NM* Tom - 14/08/2011 09:39:46 PM 526 Views
They think they have a good reason for what they're doing snoopcester - 10/08/2011 11:48:52 AM 953 Views
If they react even more indignantly to a harsh crackdown, maybe they do. Tom - 10/08/2011 02:06:04 PM 879 Views
Oh? snoopcester - 10/08/2011 04:05:55 PM 1062 Views
This is the first I've heard of it; here's hoping and praying the damage is restricted to property Joel - 08/08/2011 06:59:06 PM 1046 Views
I am sure dart_board - 09/08/2011 06:34:40 PM 1042 Views
I don't recall mentioning any of those groups in connection with this. Joel - 09/08/2011 07:29:01 PM 950 Views
You will. *NM* dart_board - 10/08/2011 12:14:22 AM 505 Views
I've had plenty of opportunites and still didn't, even when rt practically teed one up for me. Joel - 10/08/2011 12:25:09 AM 997 Views
This is utterly awful. Rebekah - 08/08/2011 09:41:46 PM 1105 Views
Yeah - it has massively spread today. Just saw footage of youths looting a Sainburys in Birmingham snoopcester - 08/08/2011 09:52:32 PM 1031 Views
And if they had got the army out Wibble - 08/08/2011 09:57:40 PM 1011 Views
That's true. Rebekah - 08/08/2011 10:03:03 PM 998 Views
pfft Yunalesca - 08/08/2011 10:23:37 PM 963 Views
I think the vast majority of people would be just fine with it snoopcester - 08/08/2011 10:08:34 PM 1156 Views
They call it "martial law" for a reason. Joel - 09/08/2011 02:30:40 AM 1003 Views
Might work in the US snoopcester - 09/08/2011 02:13:50 PM 1036 Views
When most of the looters are kids I can see how that would be problematic. Joel - 09/08/2011 05:18:09 PM 1015 Views
Joel I don't believe any looters were shot in the Rodney King riots random thoughts - 09/08/2011 05:41:44 PM 988 Views
Police were, from what I understand, hard to find during those riots. Joel - 09/08/2011 05:51:11 PM 994 Views
I am just questioning the logic of the debate taking place here random thoughts - 09/08/2011 06:33:11 PM 950 Views
Your notoriously faulty memory is by far the lesser problem here. Joel - 09/08/2011 07:14:07 PM 1256 Views
That article supports my argument random thoughts - 09/08/2011 08:55:15 PM 913 Views
OK I blame the site for this random double post. I hit submit once. random thoughts - 09/08/2011 08:55:17 PM 961 Views
I can't really argue with anything you've said here, so I won't try. Joel - 09/08/2011 11:11:17 PM 1103 Views
so now you are comparing the rioters to the Tea Party? I guess dartboard was almost right random thoughts - 10/08/2011 12:51:46 AM 1035 Views
I'm comparing alienation to alienation and noting that it's pervasive. Joel - 10/08/2011 01:19:49 AM 1095 Views
and I am saying you have no idea who the tea party is random thoughts - 10/08/2011 03:06:15 AM 976 Views
I guess I should've used the Progressive Caucus instead. Joel - 10/08/2011 04:25:30 PM 1053 Views
Seriously, is it mostly kids? nossy - 08/08/2011 10:08:00 PM 940 Views
They don't have parents Wibble - 08/08/2011 10:10:07 PM 1137 Views
A hell of a lot seem to be snoopcester - 08/08/2011 10:12:21 PM 1005 Views
I'd be tempted to go down there with a cattle prod. nossy - 08/08/2011 10:14:14 PM 1070 Views
I think there might be too many of them snoopcester - 08/08/2011 10:23:05 PM 991 Views
If that link still isn't working, try here snoopcester - 08/08/2011 10:29:19 PM 948 Views
I know that if I had ever participated in anything like that, my mother would have kicked my ass. Avendesora - 09/08/2011 08:48:09 PM 1116 Views
its getting absolutely mental Yunalesca - 08/08/2011 10:21:32 PM 986 Views
Congratulations Ken Livingstone Wibble - 08/08/2011 11:44:29 PM 1024 Views
Agree on the first part snoopcester - 09/08/2011 01:05:01 PM 1034 Views
Um... This is the first I've read / heard about it Two Wongs - 09/08/2011 03:43:02 AM 956 Views
Looks a bit like a post-apocalyptic sci-fi movie Sports_Gambler - 09/08/2011 06:38:59 AM 1033 Views
Apparently that's a surprisingly common error. Joel - 09/08/2011 12:34:30 PM 1045 Views
Horrible Mark - 09/08/2011 11:18:21 AM 916 Views
Yes snoopcester - 09/08/2011 12:55:00 PM 1096 Views
Tumblr blog where ppl are submitting pictures of the looters Two Wongs - 09/08/2011 12:49:39 PM 957 Views
People have set up the same thing on Facebook and flickr as well snoopcester - 09/08/2011 01:23:42 PM 1013 Views
... Two Wongs - 09/08/2011 04:12:55 PM 999 Views
Before and after pictures of buildings/businesses from BBC Fox and Ravens - 09/08/2011 02:12:24 PM 1148 Views
Holy crap, what is wrong with those people?? ironclad - 09/08/2011 02:23:39 PM 968 Views
how does 'they are brainless idiots' grab you? *NM* Yunalesca - 09/08/2011 05:03:51 PM 441 Views
What's with that last picture set? Nate - 09/08/2011 04:39:53 PM 1015 Views
Never figured the Iranian government for having much of a sense of hunour, snoopcester - 09/08/2011 02:26:01 PM 1077 Views
The hypocricy there is mind-boggling. *NM* Macharius - 09/08/2011 05:03:28 PM 463 Views
I imagine that's the point. Nate - 09/08/2011 05:33:09 PM 1138 Views
That was my take on it as well snoopcester - 09/08/2011 07:03:51 PM 1057 Views
Re: That was my take on it as well Camilla - 11/08/2011 11:32:12 AM 1096 Views
*sprays water over laptop screen* Yunalesca - 09/08/2011 05:07:07 PM 1002 Views
lol wow...that was a bit much *NM* Aisha - 09/08/2011 05:26:33 PM 450 Views
To be fair Sidious - 09/08/2011 06:24:58 PM 1265 Views
You make a fair point. snoopcester - 09/08/2011 07:05:26 PM 936 Views
Send in the army! Two Wongs - 09/08/2011 11:37:15 PM 913 Views
That is just lovely. *NM* Camilla - 11/08/2011 11:27:34 AM 469 Views
Remember you're a womble! Zeeb - 09/08/2011 06:49:52 PM 1009 Views
Yes snoopcester - 09/08/2011 07:09:35 PM 1046 Views
Re: Yes Zeeb - 09/08/2011 07:32:18 PM 1000 Views
i can see the smoke from the sony factory fire out of my bedroom window Yunalesca - 09/08/2011 07:21:08 PM 1032 Views
This is all quite... surreal. It's hard to believe. Avendesora - 09/08/2011 08:54:57 PM 964 Views
The surreal thing is London is still full of tourists who seem to not have a care in the world snoopcester - 09/08/2011 09:03:11 PM 960 Views
Well, it's not really anti-foreigner sentiment, is it? beetnemesis - 10/08/2011 01:57:55 AM 1045 Views
Not yet but then it isn't pro either snoopcester - 10/08/2011 10:25:13 AM 1029 Views
She has a grandson to meet for the first time, then she's off traveling with a friend. Avendesora - 10/08/2011 03:27:37 AM 1034 Views
Well to clarify, it isn't that I think it is very unsafe just not a good time to go somewhere snoopcester - 10/08/2011 10:19:03 AM 937 Views
I'm flying to the midlands tomorrow. Helene - 10/08/2011 07:35:28 AM 999 Views
It seems to be only happening in the evenings and at night. Tim - 10/08/2011 10:59:55 AM 917 Views
I have been keeping an eye on it; we have friends in Highbury Druid - 10/08/2011 05:07:16 AM 1107 Views
Re: I have been keeping an eye on it; we have friends in Highbury snoopcester - 10/08/2011 10:47:46 AM 1109 Views
Oi!!! Druid - 11/08/2011 04:40:04 AM 1171 Views
Aussie, Aussie? snoopcester - 11/08/2011 11:50:47 AM 1087 Views
I saw Nick Griffin's twitter last night Stephen - 10/08/2011 12:23:01 PM 965 Views
Yeah, I saw he had been. He's a great little scum bag snoopcester - 10/08/2011 12:47:34 PM 1071 Views
*dual facepalm* Yunalesca - 10/08/2011 02:45:03 PM 1021 Views
Effing EDL snoopcester - 10/08/2011 09:28:41 PM 1072 Views
I liked this blog Camilla - 11/08/2011 11:29:42 AM 984 Views
Quite good snoopcester - 12/08/2011 02:57:35 PM 1048 Views
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