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I think with both they're putting disclaimers in snoopcester Send a noteboard - 09/08/2011 08:56:17 PM
I did wonder yesterday when they didn't say it was his gun if he was caught in a crossfire and they were shooting someone else or the cab driver. But nothing has come out on that and i'd have expected the media to leak something by now.


He most likely didn't fire the gun and the gun was most likely his but it isn't 100% sure yet.

Nothing will be known till the full IPCC report comes out I guess. You'd think people could wait for that, I mean it's a rare occurence for UK police to fire a gun, never mind kill someone.


I think the fact it is a rare occurrence means that when ever the police shoot someone it is massive news - if they did it often enough people would lose interest;)
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London snoopcester - 08/08/2011 12:08:35 PM 2107 Views
i freaked out when i heard about that Yunalesca - 08/08/2011 02:09:10 PM 1341 Views
Re: i freaked out when i heard about that snoopcester - 08/08/2011 02:47:16 PM 1181 Views
It's pretty scary. Rebekah - 08/08/2011 02:19:51 PM 1200 Views
I found it somewhat last night, having a sister who lives in Brixton snoopcester - 08/08/2011 02:50:57 PM 1224 Views
I'm sure the media will manage to blame the police somehow Wibble - 08/08/2011 03:11:40 PM 1135 Views
I've been following the story. Spriteling - 08/08/2011 03:26:51 PM 1165 Views
I cannot quite make out what is going on Camilla - 08/08/2011 03:27:57 PM 1332 Views
No, that's about it as far as we know Wibble - 08/08/2011 03:40:15 PM 1373 Views
Re: I cannot quite make out what is going on snoopcester - 08/08/2011 03:40:21 PM 1231 Views
Continue to use live ammunition until no one is protesting. *NM* Tom - 08/08/2011 03:53:50 PM 660 Views
Sounds good to me *NM* Wibble - 08/08/2011 04:06:04 PM 663 Views
Okay, bored of these riots now, time for the police to follow 10CCs example... Wibble - 08/08/2011 09:28:36 PM 1265 Views
Given what has been reported snoopcester - 08/08/2011 04:07:13 PM 1299 Views
So, did the original suspect have a gun/fire bullets? beetnemesis - 09/08/2011 04:19:16 PM 1268 Views
Had a gun, didn't fire snoopcester - 09/08/2011 06:51:54 PM 1221 Views
Not actually true Wibble - 09/08/2011 07:01:33 PM 1157 Views
Seems it isn't exactly but I'm not sure your reply is 100% true either snoopcester - 09/08/2011 07:27:00 PM 1272 Views
Now that's a good point Wibble - 09/08/2011 07:45:26 PM 1237 Views
I think with both they're putting disclaimers in snoopcester - 09/08/2011 08:56:17 PM 1257 Views
There's no evidence he didn't fire? Imagine that. Joel - 09/08/2011 11:22:05 PM 1175 Views
He's saying the evidence available is inconclusive either way. Rebekah - 09/08/2011 11:37:06 PM 1254 Views
Fair enough. Joel - 09/08/2011 11:56:16 PM 1297 Views
There are various proofs snoopcester - 10/08/2011 12:06:41 AM 1177 Views
True, but if tests are inconclusive rather than merely incomplete those proofs may not be available. Joel - 10/08/2011 12:47:34 AM 1215 Views
Bullshit Wibble - 10/08/2011 01:12:46 AM 1079 Views
If that's the case it's hard to say they overreacted. Joel - 10/08/2011 01:22:45 AM 1081 Views
I do see why it matters if he fired or not random thoughts - 10/08/2011 12:46:12 AM 1142 Views
Again, I don't know the British standard, so I can only guess how it works. Joel - 10/08/2011 12:54:20 AM 1231 Views
Though if he had a gun, in a sock, not drawn... beetnemesis - 10/08/2011 01:50:05 AM 1188 Views
sadly the rioters didn't wait for facts random thoughts - 10/08/2011 02:56:46 AM 1324 Views
They've announced that the "unknown" gun was never fired beetnemesis - 10/08/2011 02:04:26 PM 1185 Views
So? Are the police supposed to let him get the first shot? *NM* random thoughts - 10/08/2011 03:15:59 PM 669 Views
...said Gaddafi. *NM* Tim - 10/08/2011 12:11:31 AM 634 Views
And?... *NM* Wibble - 10/08/2011 12:17:51 AM 613 Views
And we just went to war with him because he was shooting people in the street. Tim - 10/08/2011 09:56:07 AM 1225 Views
Last time I checked, you guys have a vote. First past the post, sure, but it's still a vote. Tom - 10/08/2011 04:33:07 AM 1157 Views
Is there any other country that has a death penalty for children caught stealing? *NM* Tim - 10/08/2011 10:02:56 AM 669 Views
Maybe not, but we can hope there is... *NM* Tom - 10/08/2011 02:04:38 PM 607 Views
You can hope there is. Tim - 10/08/2011 02:21:17 PM 1181 Views
...you guys need a poster named Tam, and a sitcom, stat. *NM* beetnemesis - 10/08/2011 05:11:57 PM 662 Views
+1 Yunalesca - 10/08/2011 05:17:22 PM 1194 Views
Wibble is called Tam (Scots) or Tom (English), and used to go by dragon_tam. Tim - 10/08/2011 05:27:16 PM 1295 Views
LMAO *NM* Aisha - 10/08/2011 06:22:11 PM 663 Views
If you want to talk statistics... Tom - 13/08/2011 08:26:39 PM 1128 Views
So the death penalty is a deterrent for the crimes it doesn't apply to, but not for those it does? Tim - 14/08/2011 10:58:14 AM 1313 Views
No, that wasn't my point. Tom - 14/08/2011 09:39:14 PM 1289 Views
light yagami felt the same way Yunalesca - 14/08/2011 01:20:02 PM 1342 Views
Please speak English. *NM* Tom - 14/08/2011 09:39:46 PM 649 Views
They think they have a good reason for what they're doing snoopcester - 10/08/2011 11:48:52 AM 1144 Views
If they react even more indignantly to a harsh crackdown, maybe they do. Tom - 10/08/2011 02:06:04 PM 1063 Views
Oh? snoopcester - 10/08/2011 04:05:55 PM 1247 Views
This is the first I've heard of it; here's hoping and praying the damage is restricted to property Joel - 08/08/2011 06:59:06 PM 1253 Views
I am sure dart_board - 09/08/2011 06:34:40 PM 1205 Views
I don't recall mentioning any of those groups in connection with this. Joel - 09/08/2011 07:29:01 PM 1143 Views
You will. *NM* dart_board - 10/08/2011 12:14:22 AM 618 Views
I've had plenty of opportunites and still didn't, even when rt practically teed one up for me. Joel - 10/08/2011 12:25:09 AM 1179 Views
This is utterly awful. Rebekah - 08/08/2011 09:41:46 PM 1294 Views
Yeah - it has massively spread today. Just saw footage of youths looting a Sainburys in Birmingham snoopcester - 08/08/2011 09:52:32 PM 1198 Views
And if they had got the army out Wibble - 08/08/2011 09:57:40 PM 1215 Views
That's true. Rebekah - 08/08/2011 10:03:03 PM 1181 Views
pfft Yunalesca - 08/08/2011 10:23:37 PM 1133 Views
I think the vast majority of people would be just fine with it snoopcester - 08/08/2011 10:08:34 PM 1349 Views
They call it "martial law" for a reason. Joel - 09/08/2011 02:30:40 AM 1185 Views
Might work in the US snoopcester - 09/08/2011 02:13:50 PM 1229 Views
When most of the looters are kids I can see how that would be problematic. Joel - 09/08/2011 05:18:09 PM 1203 Views
Joel I don't believe any looters were shot in the Rodney King riots random thoughts - 09/08/2011 05:41:44 PM 1177 Views
Police were, from what I understand, hard to find during those riots. Joel - 09/08/2011 05:51:11 PM 1174 Views
I am just questioning the logic of the debate taking place here random thoughts - 09/08/2011 06:33:11 PM 1155 Views
Your notoriously faulty memory is by far the lesser problem here. Joel - 09/08/2011 07:14:07 PM 1424 Views
That article supports my argument random thoughts - 09/08/2011 08:55:15 PM 1104 Views
OK I blame the site for this random double post. I hit submit once. random thoughts - 09/08/2011 08:55:17 PM 1146 Views
I can't really argue with anything you've said here, so I won't try. Joel - 09/08/2011 11:11:17 PM 1312 Views
so now you are comparing the rioters to the Tea Party? I guess dartboard was almost right random thoughts - 10/08/2011 12:51:46 AM 1273 Views
I'm comparing alienation to alienation and noting that it's pervasive. Joel - 10/08/2011 01:19:49 AM 1265 Views
and I am saying you have no idea who the tea party is random thoughts - 10/08/2011 03:06:15 AM 1155 Views
I guess I should've used the Progressive Caucus instead. Joel - 10/08/2011 04:25:30 PM 1240 Views
Seriously, is it mostly kids? nossy - 08/08/2011 10:08:00 PM 1122 Views
They don't have parents Wibble - 08/08/2011 10:10:07 PM 1334 Views
A hell of a lot seem to be snoopcester - 08/08/2011 10:12:21 PM 1189 Views
I'd be tempted to go down there with a cattle prod. nossy - 08/08/2011 10:14:14 PM 1256 Views
I think there might be too many of them snoopcester - 08/08/2011 10:23:05 PM 1181 Views
If that link still isn't working, try here snoopcester - 08/08/2011 10:29:19 PM 1144 Views
I know that if I had ever participated in anything like that, my mother would have kicked my ass. Avendesora - 09/08/2011 08:48:09 PM 1291 Views
its getting absolutely mental Yunalesca - 08/08/2011 10:21:32 PM 1157 Views
Congratulations Ken Livingstone Wibble - 08/08/2011 11:44:29 PM 1212 Views
Agree on the first part snoopcester - 09/08/2011 01:05:01 PM 1198 Views
Um... This is the first I've read / heard about it Two Wongs - 09/08/2011 03:43:02 AM 1135 Views
Looks a bit like a post-apocalyptic sci-fi movie Sports_Gambler - 09/08/2011 06:38:59 AM 1241 Views
Apparently that's a surprisingly common error. Joel - 09/08/2011 12:34:30 PM 1231 Views
Horrible Mark - 09/08/2011 11:18:21 AM 1107 Views
Yes snoopcester - 09/08/2011 12:55:00 PM 1290 Views
Tumblr blog where ppl are submitting pictures of the looters Two Wongs - 09/08/2011 12:49:39 PM 1145 Views
People have set up the same thing on Facebook and flickr as well snoopcester - 09/08/2011 01:23:42 PM 1193 Views
... Two Wongs - 09/08/2011 04:12:55 PM 1187 Views
Before and after pictures of buildings/businesses from BBC Fox and Ravens - 09/08/2011 02:12:24 PM 1347 Views
Holy crap, what is wrong with those people?? ironclad - 09/08/2011 02:23:39 PM 1140 Views
how does 'they are brainless idiots' grab you? *NM* Yunalesca - 09/08/2011 05:03:51 PM 573 Views
What's with that last picture set? Nate - 09/08/2011 04:39:53 PM 1197 Views
Never figured the Iranian government for having much of a sense of hunour, snoopcester - 09/08/2011 02:26:01 PM 1268 Views
The hypocricy there is mind-boggling. *NM* Macharius - 09/08/2011 05:03:28 PM 594 Views
I imagine that's the point. Nate - 09/08/2011 05:33:09 PM 1321 Views
That was my take on it as well snoopcester - 09/08/2011 07:03:51 PM 1243 Views
Re: That was my take on it as well Camilla - 11/08/2011 11:32:12 AM 1287 Views
*sprays water over laptop screen* Yunalesca - 09/08/2011 05:07:07 PM 1196 Views
lol wow...that was a bit much *NM* Aisha - 09/08/2011 05:26:33 PM 570 Views
To be fair Sidious - 09/08/2011 06:24:58 PM 1591 Views
You make a fair point. snoopcester - 09/08/2011 07:05:26 PM 1111 Views
Send in the army! Two Wongs - 09/08/2011 11:37:15 PM 1107 Views
That is just lovely. *NM* Camilla - 11/08/2011 11:27:34 AM 596 Views
Remember you're a womble! Zeeb - 09/08/2011 06:49:52 PM 1196 Views
Yes snoopcester - 09/08/2011 07:09:35 PM 1232 Views
Re: Yes Zeeb - 09/08/2011 07:32:18 PM 1183 Views
i can see the smoke from the sony factory fire out of my bedroom window Yunalesca - 09/08/2011 07:21:08 PM 1247 Views
This is all quite... surreal. It's hard to believe. Avendesora - 09/08/2011 08:54:57 PM 1148 Views
The surreal thing is London is still full of tourists who seem to not have a care in the world snoopcester - 09/08/2011 09:03:11 PM 1146 Views
Well, it's not really anti-foreigner sentiment, is it? beetnemesis - 10/08/2011 01:57:55 AM 1230 Views
Not yet but then it isn't pro either snoopcester - 10/08/2011 10:25:13 AM 1229 Views
She has a grandson to meet for the first time, then she's off traveling with a friend. Avendesora - 10/08/2011 03:27:37 AM 1213 Views
Well to clarify, it isn't that I think it is very unsafe just not a good time to go somewhere snoopcester - 10/08/2011 10:19:03 AM 1119 Views
I'm flying to the midlands tomorrow. Helene - 10/08/2011 07:35:28 AM 1179 Views
It seems to be only happening in the evenings and at night. Tim - 10/08/2011 10:59:55 AM 1141 Views
I have been keeping an eye on it; we have friends in Highbury Druid - 10/08/2011 05:07:16 AM 1284 Views
Re: I have been keeping an eye on it; we have friends in Highbury snoopcester - 10/08/2011 10:47:46 AM 1300 Views
Oi!!! Druid - 11/08/2011 04:40:04 AM 1380 Views
Aussie, Aussie? snoopcester - 11/08/2011 11:50:47 AM 1273 Views
I saw Nick Griffin's twitter last night Stephen - 10/08/2011 12:23:01 PM 1142 Views
Yeah, I saw he had been. He's a great little scum bag snoopcester - 10/08/2011 12:47:34 PM 1250 Views
*dual facepalm* Yunalesca - 10/08/2011 02:45:03 PM 1210 Views
Effing EDL snoopcester - 10/08/2011 09:28:41 PM 1245 Views
I liked this blog Camilla - 11/08/2011 11:29:42 AM 1197 Views
Quite good snoopcester - 12/08/2011 02:57:35 PM 1245 Views
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