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Never had much sympathy for the poor Dark Knight Send a noteboard - 24/08/2011 02:18:57 AM
This video does a fairly good job explaining how extreme our wealth disparities are in the United States, and thus the difficulty of tax policy.


Survival of the jungle, baby. Law of nature. You don't want to be poor? Gee you better do something about that. You know, apply yourself. Or be lazy, whatever. Or make a CHOICE and chose a low paying profession, for whatever reasons. Just remember, it was a choice. Aren't very smart and just destined to be a labourer? Hey, nothing wrong with that. The world can't run without you. Just don't live BEYOND YOUR MEANS. Yeah it sucks you can't have nice stuff, but hey, life sucks. Don't have 6 kids. Don't buy all those fancy electronics. Live small. Tough choices, sure, but you live with what was given to you.

And I should know, seeing how I grew up dirt poor. So poor, in fact, that I had to boil water if I wanted a hot shower. So don't talk to me how we should take all the money from rich people and spread it around. Where is the incentive there? Yeah, my childhood sucked. But I wanted nice things. I wanted a fucking hot shower! So you know what I did? I went out and applied myself! I make more money now than my parents did combined.

This should be a motto everyone should have drilled into them: Don't live beyond your means. Will you miss out on nice stuff? Maybe. But who gives a fuck? At least you aren't bathing out of a pot
Formerly Mat Bloody Cauthon on Wotmania, blessed be its name
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Make the poor pay their fair share Roland00 - 23/08/2011 11:22:37 PM 1542 Views
Part 2 of 2 Roland00 - 23/08/2011 11:23:24 PM 895 Views
It is disgraceful that over 40% of households pay no federal income tax..... trzaska2000 - 23/08/2011 11:47:54 PM 872 Views
Did you even watch both videos? *NM* Roland00 - 24/08/2011 12:08:43 AM 358 Views
yes you should watch more comedy central so you can understand economics random thoughts - 24/08/2011 12:14:09 AM 819 Views
Sometimes reality sucks so bad that you need a joker to tell you the truth. Roland00 - 24/08/2011 12:26:50 AM 918 Views
that wouldn't be a valid even if anyone was suggesting a 50% tax bracket for anyone random thoughts - 24/08/2011 01:27:19 AM 757 Views
I'm not sure if you're missing the point or not. Nate - 24/08/2011 02:20:49 AM 986 Views
I believe... callandor1000 - 24/08/2011 03:59:00 AM 931 Views
no I heard what he say Ihe is just wrong *NM* random thoughts - 24/08/2011 11:46:54 AM 393 Views
no the point is Stewart is using a strawman argument then random thoughts - 24/08/2011 12:22:55 PM 920 Views
I repeat did you watch both videos? Roland00 - 24/08/2011 03:09:48 AM 760 Views
did you actually think about what you were watching? random thoughts - 24/08/2011 01:23:47 PM 870 Views
Here is what he said, since you are at work Roland00 - 24/08/2011 11:36:52 PM 779 Views
IN that case I stand firmly by my statement that is all BS random thoughts - 25/08/2011 12:08:24 AM 655 Views
The numbers barely change if you use income instead of wealth Roland00 - 25/08/2011 03:40:12 AM 798 Views
sorry again your fudging that is adjusted gross income what would the unadjusted gross be? random thoughts - 25/08/2011 02:30:06 PM 766 Views
I considered a progressive tax a feature not a bug Roland00 - 25/08/2011 08:36:48 PM 683 Views
I thought you were a flat taxer random thoughts - 25/08/2011 09:36:21 PM 806 Views
So you will not bring up your own numbers Roland00 - 25/08/2011 09:59:31 PM 680 Views
so just proving your numbers are wrong isn't enough? random thoughts - 26/08/2011 05:03:52 PM 765 Views
how are my numbers not valid? *NM* Roland00 - 27/08/2011 03:29:34 AM 371 Views
OK lets try something different random thoughts - 28/08/2011 03:24:27 PM 692 Views
When you say serious republican? Roland00 - 29/08/2011 12:47:40 AM 787 Views
I simple "no I can't defend it" would have worked *NM* random thoughts - 29/08/2011 02:00:11 PM 439 Views
Laughs, you are funny Roland00 - 30/08/2011 12:25:52 AM 723 Views
Never had much sympathy for the poor Dark Knight - 24/08/2011 02:18:57 AM 866 Views
While there is some truth to your argument ... Nate - 24/08/2011 02:29:28 AM 988 Views
Very true Dark Knight - 24/08/2011 02:39:41 AM 695 Views
Not exclusively. Nate - 24/08/2011 02:48:58 AM 787 Views
All those people you mentioned fall under "temporary" Dark Knight - 24/08/2011 03:06:04 AM 746 Views
Okay, I will be the mean guy and say it.....why have three kids trzaska2000 - 24/08/2011 03:18:27 AM 798 Views
That's what I've never understood Dark Knight - 24/08/2011 03:24:20 AM 796 Views
That's what I assume as well.....but honestly..... trzaska2000 - 24/08/2011 03:32:59 AM 624 Views
What if everyone really did try their hardest? Nate - 24/08/2011 03:38:39 AM 695 Views
Illegals would cover those jobs and we will continue to look the other way - trzaska2000 - 24/08/2011 03:46:55 AM 702 Views
So you, as a Republican, approve of illegal immigration? *NM* Macharius - 24/08/2011 03:49:26 AM 345 Views
In the scenario Nate illustrated, I would be more tolerant of illegals. trzaska2000 - 24/08/2011 03:53:23 AM 649 Views
Not possible Dark Knight - 24/08/2011 03:48:05 AM 783 Views
You have that in Eastern European countries Helene - 24/08/2011 11:05:07 PM 783 Views
There are several possibilities. Nate - 24/08/2011 03:30:32 AM 765 Views
Very true and very wise take ... Roonas - 24/08/2011 04:33:53 AM 698 Views
Re: Okay, I will be the mean guy and say it.....why have three kids Aeryn - 24/08/2011 04:15:54 AM 703 Views
The first few weeks suck ... Roonas - 24/08/2011 04:30:13 AM 761 Views
Celibacy is a choice, but chosen for the wrong reasons and it never works Roland00 - 24/08/2011 06:31:47 AM 783 Views
I found most of what you wrote tough to decipher ... Roonas - 24/08/2011 07:14:42 AM 833 Views
I think people misuse the word "celibacy" Aeryn - 26/08/2011 04:27:27 PM 868 Views
"Lifelong" is a stretch.....just long enough so you aren't poor anymore. trzaska2000 - 24/08/2011 05:03:30 AM 814 Views
What if you're one of those unfortunate souls who will never be a middle manager? No sex for you! *NM* Aeryn - 26/08/2011 04:24:36 PM 367 Views
Maybe you should stop voting for the people who oppose birth control and sex ed, then. *NM* Dreaded Anomaly - 25/08/2011 06:10:15 AM 306 Views
Is it so much opposition to... Jeordam - 25/08/2011 09:18:12 PM 778 Views
It's opposition to birth control and sex ed. Dreaded Anomaly - 26/08/2011 01:06:38 AM 692 Views
now that is true liberal thinking random thoughts - 26/08/2011 05:24:02 PM 785 Views
No joke. This thought process kind of puts me on edge. *NM* Jeordam - 26/08/2011 05:47:15 PM 391 Views
Neither you nor Jeordam has justified that position. Dreaded Anomaly - 28/08/2011 12:05:51 AM 705 Views
wow you go deeper and deeper into the the land of far left crazy random thoughts - 28/08/2011 03:31:45 PM 762 Views
I don't view the "liberty" to teach lies to children as something that merits state investment. Dreaded Anomaly - 29/08/2011 04:17:27 AM 971 Views
looks like someone has tuaght you a fair amount of lies random thoughts - 29/08/2011 02:01:29 PM 638 Views
I will take this as a concession since it contains nothing even close to legitimate objection. *NM* Dreaded Anomaly - 29/08/2011 05:18:14 PM 304 Views
that should work since you do seem to be talented at believing what you want to be true is true *NM* random thoughts - 29/08/2011 05:45:17 PM 350 Views
I can comment on this one.... Jeordam - 29/08/2011 11:51:40 PM 822 Views
Re: I can comment on this one.... Dreaded Anomaly - 30/08/2011 03:54:07 AM 704 Views
who opposes birth control? *NM* random thoughts - 25/08/2011 09:37:04 PM 404 Views
Many religous groups such as Catholics, it is cultural as well *NM* Roland00 - 25/08/2011 10:01:39 PM 345 Views
From the context from this sub-thread, maybe the question was regarding specific politicians? *NM* Jeordam - 25/08/2011 11:21:32 PM 365 Views
I don't believe we have a chatloiuc party or any anti-birth control party *NM* random thoughts - 26/08/2011 05:15:56 PM 383 Views
The Republican party and social conservatives in general. Dreaded Anomaly - 26/08/2011 12:52:32 AM 777 Views
so your answer is left wing talking points and damn reality? random thoughts - 26/08/2011 05:14:58 PM 765 Views
Reality leans left. Dreaded Anomaly - 27/08/2011 11:56:00 PM 773 Views
you talking about reality is funny but it doesn't support your argument in the slighetest random thoughts - 28/08/2011 03:37:42 PM 646 Views
They blatantly lied about the effectiveness of birth control. Dreaded Anomaly - 29/08/2011 04:14:17 AM 649 Views
Can you show me where Bush said that? random thoughts - 29/08/2011 02:03:53 PM 732 Views
No, I have most of the groups that taught abstinence-only. Dreaded Anomaly - 29/08/2011 05:17:39 PM 755 Views
the little bit of slanted reality form a Waxman staffer? random thoughts - 29/08/2011 05:43:42 PM 768 Views
Talk about believing what you want to believe. Dreaded Anomaly - 30/08/2011 03:38:49 AM 670 Views
Funny..... Jeordam - 26/08/2011 05:54:38 PM 764 Views
Re: Funny..... Dreaded Anomaly - 28/08/2011 12:15:25 AM 673 Views
I'll just comment on this one thought... Jeordam - 29/08/2011 11:58:08 PM 800 Views
The state does if the parent places their children in public education. Dreaded Anomaly - 30/08/2011 03:58:29 AM 791 Views
The number of ridiculous stereotypes in your first paragraph are off the hook. Are you joking? everynametaken - 24/08/2011 02:53:13 AM 608 Views
Ridiculous stereotypes? Dark Knight - 24/08/2011 03:03:52 AM 799 Views
You are much more right than wrong..... trzaska2000 - 24/08/2011 03:23:22 AM 710 Views
"Most poor people are lazy nowadays due to... welfare and government dependence." Ghavrel - 24/08/2011 06:48:29 AM 717 Views
The truth sometimes sucks, but it is the truth nonetheless..... *NM* trzaska2000 - 24/08/2011 02:53:49 PM 359 Views
I agree for the most part Roland00 - 24/08/2011 03:27:21 AM 627 Views
Woah woah woah. You had me until the end LadyLorraine - 25/08/2011 09:21:50 AM 753 Views
I know the chances of that are very slim Roland00 - 25/08/2011 01:07:41 PM 666 Views
This video is unavailable from your location *NM* Colonel Logain - 24/08/2011 03:42:26 AM 363 Views
Does this work? Roland00 - 24/08/2011 04:21:47 AM 621 Views
Still only visible from the States... Colonel Logain - 24/08/2011 04:27:32 AM 622 Views
Not so, the first link works for me here. Joel - 26/08/2011 01:31:18 AM 718 Views
Tax hikes for unemployed homeless people to pay for an(other) "one time" corporate tax holiday. Joel - 26/08/2011 01:25:16 AM 787 Views
Crap presentation of an important issue. Vodalus - 26/08/2011 05:32:46 AM 873 Views
no one thinks a family of four can live on that random thoughts - 26/08/2011 05:28:49 PM 651 Views
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