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The first few weeks suck ... Roonas Send a noteboard - 24/08/2011 04:30:13 AM
If you are so damn poor? A little self control and hard work to better your situation before having kids would be a wise decision. Right?


Life-long celibacy isn't "a little self control."


But like most things the longer it is done the easier it is to continue in said state.

Now, I am not trying to enter this argument, because frankly I find it rather unsolvable and no one's mind is gonna change here.

What I am trying to illustrate though is that celibacy as a choice (either early or late) is something that is within anyone's grasp or control - it merely is a matter of approach, and the handling of the true reason behind the choice.

I do however agree it takes more than a "little" self control at first - but again, the thought process and motivation for the person in question has alot to do with the outcome of the decision.

Just my $00.02 worth ...

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-Roonas.

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Make the poor pay their fair share Roland00 - 23/08/2011 11:22:37 PM 1483 Views
Part 2 of 2 Roland00 - 23/08/2011 11:23:24 PM 855 Views
It is disgraceful that over 40% of households pay no federal income tax..... trzaska2000 - 23/08/2011 11:47:54 PM 836 Views
Did you even watch both videos? *NM* Roland00 - 24/08/2011 12:08:43 AM 342 Views
yes you should watch more comedy central so you can understand economics random thoughts - 24/08/2011 12:14:09 AM 782 Views
Sometimes reality sucks so bad that you need a joker to tell you the truth. Roland00 - 24/08/2011 12:26:50 AM 877 Views
that wouldn't be a valid even if anyone was suggesting a 50% tax bracket for anyone random thoughts - 24/08/2011 01:27:19 AM 720 Views
I'm not sure if you're missing the point or not. Nate - 24/08/2011 02:20:49 AM 902 Views
I believe... callandor1000 - 24/08/2011 03:59:00 AM 869 Views
no I heard what he say Ihe is just wrong *NM* random thoughts - 24/08/2011 11:46:54 AM 367 Views
no the point is Stewart is using a strawman argument then random thoughts - 24/08/2011 12:22:55 PM 878 Views
I repeat did you watch both videos? Roland00 - 24/08/2011 03:09:48 AM 720 Views
did you actually think about what you were watching? random thoughts - 24/08/2011 01:23:47 PM 826 Views
Here is what he said, since you are at work Roland00 - 24/08/2011 11:36:52 PM 740 Views
IN that case I stand firmly by my statement that is all BS random thoughts - 25/08/2011 12:08:24 AM 616 Views
The numbers barely change if you use income instead of wealth Roland00 - 25/08/2011 03:40:12 AM 761 Views
sorry again your fudging that is adjusted gross income what would the unadjusted gross be? random thoughts - 25/08/2011 02:30:06 PM 727 Views
I considered a progressive tax a feature not a bug Roland00 - 25/08/2011 08:36:48 PM 651 Views
I thought you were a flat taxer random thoughts - 25/08/2011 09:36:21 PM 739 Views
So you will not bring up your own numbers Roland00 - 25/08/2011 09:59:31 PM 643 Views
so just proving your numbers are wrong isn't enough? random thoughts - 26/08/2011 05:03:52 PM 709 Views
how are my numbers not valid? *NM* Roland00 - 27/08/2011 03:29:34 AM 353 Views
OK lets try something different random thoughts - 28/08/2011 03:24:27 PM 653 Views
When you say serious republican? Roland00 - 29/08/2011 12:47:40 AM 748 Views
I simple "no I can't defend it" would have worked *NM* random thoughts - 29/08/2011 02:00:11 PM 425 Views
Laughs, you are funny Roland00 - 30/08/2011 12:25:52 AM 684 Views
Never had much sympathy for the poor Dark Knight - 24/08/2011 02:18:57 AM 823 Views
While there is some truth to your argument ... Nate - 24/08/2011 02:29:28 AM 953 Views
Very true Dark Knight - 24/08/2011 02:39:41 AM 657 Views
Not exclusively. Nate - 24/08/2011 02:48:58 AM 740 Views
All those people you mentioned fall under "temporary" Dark Knight - 24/08/2011 03:06:04 AM 702 Views
Okay, I will be the mean guy and say it.....why have three kids trzaska2000 - 24/08/2011 03:18:27 AM 755 Views
That's what I've never understood Dark Knight - 24/08/2011 03:24:20 AM 741 Views
That's what I assume as well.....but honestly..... trzaska2000 - 24/08/2011 03:32:59 AM 586 Views
What if everyone really did try their hardest? Nate - 24/08/2011 03:38:39 AM 637 Views
Illegals would cover those jobs and we will continue to look the other way - trzaska2000 - 24/08/2011 03:46:55 AM 661 Views
So you, as a Republican, approve of illegal immigration? *NM* Macharius - 24/08/2011 03:49:26 AM 328 Views
In the scenario Nate illustrated, I would be more tolerant of illegals. trzaska2000 - 24/08/2011 03:53:23 AM 605 Views
Not possible Dark Knight - 24/08/2011 03:48:05 AM 743 Views
You have that in Eastern European countries Helene - 24/08/2011 11:05:07 PM 737 Views
There are several possibilities. Nate - 24/08/2011 03:30:32 AM 726 Views
Very true and very wise take ... Roonas - 24/08/2011 04:33:53 AM 663 Views
Re: Okay, I will be the mean guy and say it.....why have three kids Aeryn - 24/08/2011 04:15:54 AM 660 Views
The first few weeks suck ... Roonas - 24/08/2011 04:30:13 AM 723 Views
Celibacy is a choice, but chosen for the wrong reasons and it never works Roland00 - 24/08/2011 06:31:47 AM 744 Views
I found most of what you wrote tough to decipher ... Roonas - 24/08/2011 07:14:42 AM 793 Views
I think people misuse the word "celibacy" Aeryn - 26/08/2011 04:27:27 PM 805 Views
"Lifelong" is a stretch.....just long enough so you aren't poor anymore. trzaska2000 - 24/08/2011 05:03:30 AM 771 Views
What if you're one of those unfortunate souls who will never be a middle manager? No sex for you! *NM* Aeryn - 26/08/2011 04:24:36 PM 342 Views
Maybe you should stop voting for the people who oppose birth control and sex ed, then. *NM* Dreaded Anomaly - 25/08/2011 06:10:15 AM 289 Views
Is it so much opposition to... Jeordam - 25/08/2011 09:18:12 PM 740 Views
It's opposition to birth control and sex ed. Dreaded Anomaly - 26/08/2011 01:06:38 AM 652 Views
now that is true liberal thinking random thoughts - 26/08/2011 05:24:02 PM 746 Views
No joke. This thought process kind of puts me on edge. *NM* Jeordam - 26/08/2011 05:47:15 PM 373 Views
Neither you nor Jeordam has justified that position. Dreaded Anomaly - 28/08/2011 12:05:51 AM 668 Views
wow you go deeper and deeper into the the land of far left crazy random thoughts - 28/08/2011 03:31:45 PM 724 Views
I don't view the "liberty" to teach lies to children as something that merits state investment. Dreaded Anomaly - 29/08/2011 04:17:27 AM 928 Views
looks like someone has tuaght you a fair amount of lies random thoughts - 29/08/2011 02:01:29 PM 596 Views
I will take this as a concession since it contains nothing even close to legitimate objection. *NM* Dreaded Anomaly - 29/08/2011 05:18:14 PM 275 Views
that should work since you do seem to be talented at believing what you want to be true is true *NM* random thoughts - 29/08/2011 05:45:17 PM 330 Views
I can comment on this one.... Jeordam - 29/08/2011 11:51:40 PM 779 Views
Re: I can comment on this one.... Dreaded Anomaly - 30/08/2011 03:54:07 AM 661 Views
who opposes birth control? *NM* random thoughts - 25/08/2011 09:37:04 PM 389 Views
Many religous groups such as Catholics, it is cultural as well *NM* Roland00 - 25/08/2011 10:01:39 PM 328 Views
From the context from this sub-thread, maybe the question was regarding specific politicians? *NM* Jeordam - 25/08/2011 11:21:32 PM 350 Views
I don't believe we have a chatloiuc party or any anti-birth control party *NM* random thoughts - 26/08/2011 05:15:56 PM 354 Views
The Republican party and social conservatives in general. Dreaded Anomaly - 26/08/2011 12:52:32 AM 740 Views
so your answer is left wing talking points and damn reality? random thoughts - 26/08/2011 05:14:58 PM 727 Views
Reality leans left. Dreaded Anomaly - 27/08/2011 11:56:00 PM 726 Views
you talking about reality is funny but it doesn't support your argument in the slighetest random thoughts - 28/08/2011 03:37:42 PM 608 Views
They blatantly lied about the effectiveness of birth control. Dreaded Anomaly - 29/08/2011 04:14:17 AM 614 Views
Can you show me where Bush said that? random thoughts - 29/08/2011 02:03:53 PM 694 Views
No, I have most of the groups that taught abstinence-only. Dreaded Anomaly - 29/08/2011 05:17:39 PM 718 Views
the little bit of slanted reality form a Waxman staffer? random thoughts - 29/08/2011 05:43:42 PM 729 Views
Talk about believing what you want to believe. Dreaded Anomaly - 30/08/2011 03:38:49 AM 632 Views
Funny..... Jeordam - 26/08/2011 05:54:38 PM 716 Views
Re: Funny..... Dreaded Anomaly - 28/08/2011 12:15:25 AM 636 Views
I'll just comment on this one thought... Jeordam - 29/08/2011 11:58:08 PM 758 Views
The state does if the parent places their children in public education. Dreaded Anomaly - 30/08/2011 03:58:29 AM 754 Views
The number of ridiculous stereotypes in your first paragraph are off the hook. Are you joking? everynametaken - 24/08/2011 02:53:13 AM 577 Views
Ridiculous stereotypes? Dark Knight - 24/08/2011 03:03:52 AM 758 Views
You are much more right than wrong..... trzaska2000 - 24/08/2011 03:23:22 AM 667 Views
"Most poor people are lazy nowadays due to... welfare and government dependence." Ghavrel - 24/08/2011 06:48:29 AM 677 Views
The truth sometimes sucks, but it is the truth nonetheless..... *NM* trzaska2000 - 24/08/2011 02:53:49 PM 341 Views
I agree for the most part Roland00 - 24/08/2011 03:27:21 AM 585 Views
Woah woah woah. You had me until the end LadyLorraine - 25/08/2011 09:21:50 AM 715 Views
I know the chances of that are very slim Roland00 - 25/08/2011 01:07:41 PM 632 Views
This video is unavailable from your location *NM* Colonel Logain - 24/08/2011 03:42:26 AM 332 Views
Does this work? Roland00 - 24/08/2011 04:21:47 AM 581 Views
Still only visible from the States... Colonel Logain - 24/08/2011 04:27:32 AM 582 Views
Not so, the first link works for me here. Joel - 26/08/2011 01:31:18 AM 650 Views
Tax hikes for unemployed homeless people to pay for an(other) "one time" corporate tax holiday. Joel - 26/08/2011 01:25:16 AM 745 Views
Crap presentation of an important issue. Vodalus - 26/08/2011 05:32:46 AM 829 Views
no one thinks a family of four can live on that random thoughts - 26/08/2011 05:28:49 PM 609 Views
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