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I think people misuse the word "celibacy" Aeryn Send a noteboard - 26/08/2011 04:27:27 PM
If you want less kids, then you need greater access to birth control, better education on birth control, and less stigma associated with it in certain areas of the population.


This part however I do agree with.

I was merely speaking from self-experience that celibacy is truly possible ... human beings are very capable of controlling their urges - trust me, or there would be alot more dead people right this very minute by my own hand. I fully disregard someone who says they couldn't control themselves (regardless of situation) ... it's utter horse shit.

Sometimes circumstances puts us in a tight squeeze where we have to react on "instinct", but I don't buy the statement you made that people will eventually "give in to it" ... they may give in to repeated temptation to doing whatever it is they are resisting, but considering they did not do what was necessary to put themselves out of "harms way" shows they truly did not want to resist in the first place, it's not instinct based.

That implies that man is a utterly illogical animal. And while we are indeed animals, we are not ruled by instinct.

Just my take,

-Roon


Celibacy isn't obstaining from sex until you're 21 years old. Or for a year or two or five. It means NEVER having sex. EVER. It is possible for people with very low sex drives, which will be a small percentage of the population, but it is not an option as public policy, or advice.
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Make the poor pay their fair share Roland00 - 23/08/2011 11:22:37 PM 1540 Views
Part 2 of 2 Roland00 - 23/08/2011 11:23:24 PM 892 Views
It is disgraceful that over 40% of households pay no federal income tax..... trzaska2000 - 23/08/2011 11:47:54 PM 872 Views
Did you even watch both videos? *NM* Roland00 - 24/08/2011 12:08:43 AM 358 Views
yes you should watch more comedy central so you can understand economics random thoughts - 24/08/2011 12:14:09 AM 818 Views
Sometimes reality sucks so bad that you need a joker to tell you the truth. Roland00 - 24/08/2011 12:26:50 AM 916 Views
that wouldn't be a valid even if anyone was suggesting a 50% tax bracket for anyone random thoughts - 24/08/2011 01:27:19 AM 754 Views
I'm not sure if you're missing the point or not. Nate - 24/08/2011 02:20:49 AM 984 Views
I believe... callandor1000 - 24/08/2011 03:59:00 AM 929 Views
no I heard what he say Ihe is just wrong *NM* random thoughts - 24/08/2011 11:46:54 AM 393 Views
no the point is Stewart is using a strawman argument then random thoughts - 24/08/2011 12:22:55 PM 918 Views
I repeat did you watch both videos? Roland00 - 24/08/2011 03:09:48 AM 757 Views
did you actually think about what you were watching? random thoughts - 24/08/2011 01:23:47 PM 868 Views
Here is what he said, since you are at work Roland00 - 24/08/2011 11:36:52 PM 777 Views
IN that case I stand firmly by my statement that is all BS random thoughts - 25/08/2011 12:08:24 AM 654 Views
The numbers barely change if you use income instead of wealth Roland00 - 25/08/2011 03:40:12 AM 796 Views
sorry again your fudging that is adjusted gross income what would the unadjusted gross be? random thoughts - 25/08/2011 02:30:06 PM 766 Views
I considered a progressive tax a feature not a bug Roland00 - 25/08/2011 08:36:48 PM 681 Views
I thought you were a flat taxer random thoughts - 25/08/2011 09:36:21 PM 804 Views
So you will not bring up your own numbers Roland00 - 25/08/2011 09:59:31 PM 678 Views
so just proving your numbers are wrong isn't enough? random thoughts - 26/08/2011 05:03:52 PM 763 Views
how are my numbers not valid? *NM* Roland00 - 27/08/2011 03:29:34 AM 369 Views
OK lets try something different random thoughts - 28/08/2011 03:24:27 PM 692 Views
When you say serious republican? Roland00 - 29/08/2011 12:47:40 AM 785 Views
I simple "no I can't defend it" would have worked *NM* random thoughts - 29/08/2011 02:00:11 PM 437 Views
Laughs, you are funny Roland00 - 30/08/2011 12:25:52 AM 721 Views
Never had much sympathy for the poor Dark Knight - 24/08/2011 02:18:57 AM 864 Views
While there is some truth to your argument ... Nate - 24/08/2011 02:29:28 AM 987 Views
Very true Dark Knight - 24/08/2011 02:39:41 AM 693 Views
Not exclusively. Nate - 24/08/2011 02:48:58 AM 783 Views
All those people you mentioned fall under "temporary" Dark Knight - 24/08/2011 03:06:04 AM 745 Views
Okay, I will be the mean guy and say it.....why have three kids trzaska2000 - 24/08/2011 03:18:27 AM 796 Views
That's what I've never understood Dark Knight - 24/08/2011 03:24:20 AM 795 Views
That's what I assume as well.....but honestly..... trzaska2000 - 24/08/2011 03:32:59 AM 622 Views
What if everyone really did try their hardest? Nate - 24/08/2011 03:38:39 AM 692 Views
Illegals would cover those jobs and we will continue to look the other way - trzaska2000 - 24/08/2011 03:46:55 AM 701 Views
So you, as a Republican, approve of illegal immigration? *NM* Macharius - 24/08/2011 03:49:26 AM 345 Views
In the scenario Nate illustrated, I would be more tolerant of illegals. trzaska2000 - 24/08/2011 03:53:23 AM 647 Views
Not possible Dark Knight - 24/08/2011 03:48:05 AM 781 Views
You have that in Eastern European countries Helene - 24/08/2011 11:05:07 PM 782 Views
There are several possibilities. Nate - 24/08/2011 03:30:32 AM 765 Views
Very true and very wise take ... Roonas - 24/08/2011 04:33:53 AM 696 Views
Re: Okay, I will be the mean guy and say it.....why have three kids Aeryn - 24/08/2011 04:15:54 AM 701 Views
The first few weeks suck ... Roonas - 24/08/2011 04:30:13 AM 761 Views
Celibacy is a choice, but chosen for the wrong reasons and it never works Roland00 - 24/08/2011 06:31:47 AM 781 Views
I found most of what you wrote tough to decipher ... Roonas - 24/08/2011 07:14:42 AM 831 Views
I think people misuse the word "celibacy" Aeryn - 26/08/2011 04:27:27 PM 866 Views
"Lifelong" is a stretch.....just long enough so you aren't poor anymore. trzaska2000 - 24/08/2011 05:03:30 AM 812 Views
What if you're one of those unfortunate souls who will never be a middle manager? No sex for you! *NM* Aeryn - 26/08/2011 04:24:36 PM 364 Views
Maybe you should stop voting for the people who oppose birth control and sex ed, then. *NM* Dreaded Anomaly - 25/08/2011 06:10:15 AM 306 Views
Is it so much opposition to... Jeordam - 25/08/2011 09:18:12 PM 777 Views
It's opposition to birth control and sex ed. Dreaded Anomaly - 26/08/2011 01:06:38 AM 688 Views
now that is true liberal thinking random thoughts - 26/08/2011 05:24:02 PM 784 Views
No joke. This thought process kind of puts me on edge. *NM* Jeordam - 26/08/2011 05:47:15 PM 389 Views
Neither you nor Jeordam has justified that position. Dreaded Anomaly - 28/08/2011 12:05:51 AM 703 Views
wow you go deeper and deeper into the the land of far left crazy random thoughts - 28/08/2011 03:31:45 PM 760 Views
I don't view the "liberty" to teach lies to children as something that merits state investment. Dreaded Anomaly - 29/08/2011 04:17:27 AM 969 Views
looks like someone has tuaght you a fair amount of lies random thoughts - 29/08/2011 02:01:29 PM 636 Views
I will take this as a concession since it contains nothing even close to legitimate objection. *NM* Dreaded Anomaly - 29/08/2011 05:18:14 PM 304 Views
that should work since you do seem to be talented at believing what you want to be true is true *NM* random thoughts - 29/08/2011 05:45:17 PM 350 Views
I can comment on this one.... Jeordam - 29/08/2011 11:51:40 PM 820 Views
Re: I can comment on this one.... Dreaded Anomaly - 30/08/2011 03:54:07 AM 702 Views
who opposes birth control? *NM* random thoughts - 25/08/2011 09:37:04 PM 404 Views
Many religous groups such as Catholics, it is cultural as well *NM* Roland00 - 25/08/2011 10:01:39 PM 345 Views
From the context from this sub-thread, maybe the question was regarding specific politicians? *NM* Jeordam - 25/08/2011 11:21:32 PM 364 Views
I don't believe we have a chatloiuc party or any anti-birth control party *NM* random thoughts - 26/08/2011 05:15:56 PM 381 Views
The Republican party and social conservatives in general. Dreaded Anomaly - 26/08/2011 12:52:32 AM 775 Views
so your answer is left wing talking points and damn reality? random thoughts - 26/08/2011 05:14:58 PM 763 Views
Reality leans left. Dreaded Anomaly - 27/08/2011 11:56:00 PM 771 Views
you talking about reality is funny but it doesn't support your argument in the slighetest random thoughts - 28/08/2011 03:37:42 PM 645 Views
They blatantly lied about the effectiveness of birth control. Dreaded Anomaly - 29/08/2011 04:14:17 AM 647 Views
Can you show me where Bush said that? random thoughts - 29/08/2011 02:03:53 PM 730 Views
No, I have most of the groups that taught abstinence-only. Dreaded Anomaly - 29/08/2011 05:17:39 PM 755 Views
the little bit of slanted reality form a Waxman staffer? random thoughts - 29/08/2011 05:43:42 PM 767 Views
Talk about believing what you want to believe. Dreaded Anomaly - 30/08/2011 03:38:49 AM 668 Views
Funny..... Jeordam - 26/08/2011 05:54:38 PM 762 Views
Re: Funny..... Dreaded Anomaly - 28/08/2011 12:15:25 AM 672 Views
I'll just comment on this one thought... Jeordam - 29/08/2011 11:58:08 PM 799 Views
The state does if the parent places their children in public education. Dreaded Anomaly - 30/08/2011 03:58:29 AM 789 Views
The number of ridiculous stereotypes in your first paragraph are off the hook. Are you joking? everynametaken - 24/08/2011 02:53:13 AM 607 Views
Ridiculous stereotypes? Dark Knight - 24/08/2011 03:03:52 AM 796 Views
You are much more right than wrong..... trzaska2000 - 24/08/2011 03:23:22 AM 707 Views
"Most poor people are lazy nowadays due to... welfare and government dependence." Ghavrel - 24/08/2011 06:48:29 AM 716 Views
The truth sometimes sucks, but it is the truth nonetheless..... *NM* trzaska2000 - 24/08/2011 02:53:49 PM 359 Views
I agree for the most part Roland00 - 24/08/2011 03:27:21 AM 625 Views
Woah woah woah. You had me until the end LadyLorraine - 25/08/2011 09:21:50 AM 751 Views
I know the chances of that are very slim Roland00 - 25/08/2011 01:07:41 PM 664 Views
This video is unavailable from your location *NM* Colonel Logain - 24/08/2011 03:42:26 AM 363 Views
Does this work? Roland00 - 24/08/2011 04:21:47 AM 621 Views
Still only visible from the States... Colonel Logain - 24/08/2011 04:27:32 AM 620 Views
Not so, the first link works for me here. Joel - 26/08/2011 01:31:18 AM 716 Views
Tax hikes for unemployed homeless people to pay for an(other) "one time" corporate tax holiday. Joel - 26/08/2011 01:25:16 AM 785 Views
Crap presentation of an important issue. Vodalus - 26/08/2011 05:32:46 AM 872 Views
no one thinks a family of four can live on that random thoughts - 26/08/2011 05:28:49 PM 649 Views
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