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Vancouver at least has a nice climate. Nate Send a noteboard - 30/08/2011 09:40:31 PM
It doesn't snow there, at any rate. It's overcast and rainy in the winter, but it stays warm and green. But yeah, Calgary and Toronto can be kind of rough in the winter. But they're certainly not the worst Canada has to offer as far as winter weather.

I also noticed the availability of public health care was a factor so I guess they rated free health care as being more important than quality health care and US cities need not apply.


Quite possibly true, but then, they are probably trying to rate them for liveability for everyone, not just for those who can afford it. The higher average crime rate in many American cities likely also contributed to lower scores. Maybe the public education system as well? I don't know enough about that in the US to say if it would play a negative role in such a ranking.

But like I said to Jens, there's really no telling where the American cities are on the list. They could still have pretty good scores and just not be in the top ten. Obviously American cities are a lot better than a lot of places in the world. That said, there are countries I would choose over the United States. Lots of opportunity in the US, and lots of good people, but a lot of things I don't like as well.

EDIT - countries, not counties.
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The world's top ten and worst ten most livable cities - 30/08/2011 07:06:50 PM 1361 Views
How do you call towns "cities"? - 30/08/2011 08:12:27 PM 635 Views
I thought you were going to mention Perth. The rest are clearly cities, if you ask me. - 30/08/2011 08:23:33 PM 622 Views
Perth has 1.7 million people. - 30/08/2011 08:30:26 PM 779 Views
You kind of inadvertently prove the point... - 30/08/2011 09:21:18 PM 847 Views
So I see! - 30/08/2011 09:45:27 PM 872 Views
A million people isn't a city? - 30/08/2011 08:28:20 PM 787 Views
Not necessarily. - 30/08/2011 10:49:08 PM 753 Views
You could be right re: population density. - 30/08/2011 11:06:36 PM 698 Views
Re: Not necessarily. - 30/08/2011 11:56:20 PM 695 Views
He's spoilt by living in New York - 31/08/2011 01:26:02 AM 830 Views
That probably is part of it. - 31/08/2011 02:14:41 AM 640 Views
to meet their definition of best it also seems to help if you have mostly white - 31/08/2011 01:52:11 PM 645 Views
Have you been to Toronto or Vancouver ? - 31/08/2011 04:02:01 PM 660 Views
no but I have the internet and they meet the ethnic description I gave - 31/08/2011 05:25:40 PM 764 Views
Yeah, I'm sorry, but you're fairly off with that one. - 31/08/2011 04:52:25 PM 712 Views
OK you did see where I included Asians didn't you and I would call less than 2% significant - 31/08/2011 05:31:45 PM 707 Views
I believe your words ... - 31/08/2011 05:49:26 PM 682 Views
yeah sprinkling was probably an understatement - 31/08/2011 07:36:16 PM 903 Views
As a comparison ... - 30/08/2011 08:37:28 PM 810 Views
that can be a little misleading - 30/08/2011 09:18:22 PM 744 Views
Point taken. - 30/08/2011 09:49:54 PM 813 Views
Not enough Europe, apparently - 30/08/2011 08:13:48 PM 704 Views
Re: Europe - 30/08/2011 09:32:17 PM 728 Views
Interesting - 30/08/2011 09:59:27 PM 870 Views
but everything tries to kill you in Oz - 30/08/2011 08:41:51 PM 672 Views
That's what keeps you fit and healthy. *NM* - 30/08/2011 09:17:32 PM 360 Views
weather is a factor and three Canadian cities made the top ten? - 30/08/2011 09:22:32 PM 776 Views
Vancouver at least has a nice climate. - 30/08/2011 09:40:31 PM 904 Views
yeah there are not vey many US cities I would want to raise kids in - 30/08/2011 11:16:52 PM 615 Views
For the record, I found Vancouver quite lovely. - 31/08/2011 05:09:37 PM 850 Views
Quality health care in the US, really? - 31/08/2011 12:27:41 AM 729 Views
seriously... - 31/08/2011 05:24:47 AM 680 Views
all you are arguing is quality=free - 31/08/2011 12:11:30 PM 687 Views
Also, - 31/08/2011 12:53:00 PM 762 Views
no it works out that nicely for most people - 31/08/2011 01:36:13 PM 714 Views
How can he afford a week in Vail and not afford insurance? - 31/08/2011 04:22:47 PM 717 Views
a lot of the uninsured are that way from choice - 31/08/2011 06:41:42 PM 642 Views
Livability obviously doesn't include "Concentration of Venomous Creatures". *NM* - 30/08/2011 11:43:43 PM 370 Views
Actually, the reason our cities are so liveable is because they're built to keep said creatures out - 31/08/2011 12:59:01 AM 633 Views
How? - 31/08/2011 08:20:01 AM 615 Views
Why no Boston? *NM* - 31/08/2011 12:16:28 AM 357 Views
A low population density seems to be a key determinant in these rankings - 31/08/2011 12:51:45 AM 597 Views
There is an obvious mistake - 31/08/2011 03:07:31 AM 899 Views
I was almost killed by a wombat - 31/08/2011 05:26:28 AM 593 Views
you should print that on a tee shirt and sell it - 31/08/2011 09:11:18 PM 612 Views

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