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Vancouver at least has a nice climate. Nate Send a noteboard - 30/08/2011 09:40:31 PM
It doesn't snow there, at any rate. It's overcast and rainy in the winter, but it stays warm and green. But yeah, Calgary and Toronto can be kind of rough in the winter. But they're certainly not the worst Canada has to offer as far as winter weather.

I also noticed the availability of public health care was a factor so I guess they rated free health care as being more important than quality health care and US cities need not apply.


Quite possibly true, but then, they are probably trying to rate them for liveability for everyone, not just for those who can afford it. The higher average crime rate in many American cities likely also contributed to lower scores. Maybe the public education system as well? I don't know enough about that in the US to say if it would play a negative role in such a ranking.

But like I said to Jens, there's really no telling where the American cities are on the list. They could still have pretty good scores and just not be in the top ten. Obviously American cities are a lot better than a lot of places in the world. That said, there are countries I would choose over the United States. Lots of opportunity in the US, and lots of good people, but a lot of things I don't like as well.

EDIT - countries, not counties.
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The world's top ten and worst ten most livable cities Nate - 30/08/2011 07:06:50 PM 1501 Views
How do you call towns "cities"? Tom - 30/08/2011 08:12:27 PM 773 Views
I thought you were going to mention Perth. The rest are clearly cities, if you ask me. Legolas - 30/08/2011 08:23:33 PM 739 Views
Perth has 1.7 million people. Nate - 30/08/2011 08:30:26 PM 895 Views
You kind of inadvertently prove the point... Legolas - 30/08/2011 09:21:18 PM 972 Views
So I see! Nate - 30/08/2011 09:45:27 PM 986 Views
A million people isn't a city? Nate - 30/08/2011 08:28:20 PM 899 Views
Not necessarily. Tom - 30/08/2011 10:49:08 PM 870 Views
You could be right re: population density. Nate - 30/08/2011 11:06:36 PM 807 Views
Re: Not necessarily. Zaphod - 30/08/2011 11:56:20 PM 885 Views
He's spoilt by living in New York Stephen - 31/08/2011 01:26:02 AM 950 Views
That probably is part of it. Tom - 31/08/2011 02:14:41 AM 760 Views
to meet their definition of best it also seems to help if you have mostly white random thoughts - 31/08/2011 01:52:11 PM 763 Views
Have you been to Toronto or Vancouver ? wheelwright - 31/08/2011 04:02:01 PM 773 Views
no but I have the internet and they meet the ethnic description I gave random thoughts - 31/08/2011 05:25:40 PM 871 Views
Yeah, I'm sorry, but you're fairly off with that one. Nate - 31/08/2011 04:52:25 PM 825 Views
OK you did see where I included Asians didn't you and I would call less than 2% significant random thoughts - 31/08/2011 05:31:45 PM 820 Views
I believe your words ... Nate - 31/08/2011 05:49:26 PM 804 Views
yeah sprinkling was probably an understatement random thoughts - 31/08/2011 07:36:16 PM 1027 Views
As a comparison ... Nate - 30/08/2011 08:37:28 PM 932 Views
that can be a little misleading random thoughts - 30/08/2011 09:18:22 PM 863 Views
Point taken. Nate - 30/08/2011 09:49:54 PM 945 Views
Not enough Europe, apparently ironclad - 30/08/2011 08:13:48 PM 823 Views
Re: Europe Nate - 30/08/2011 09:32:17 PM 846 Views
Interesting ironclad - 30/08/2011 09:59:27 PM 981 Views
but everything tries to kill you in Oz Yunalesca - 30/08/2011 08:41:51 PM 776 Views
That's what keeps you fit and healthy. *NM* Nate - 30/08/2011 09:17:32 PM 411 Views
weather is a factor and three Canadian cities made the top ten? random thoughts - 30/08/2011 09:22:32 PM 906 Views
Vancouver at least has a nice climate. Nate - 30/08/2011 09:40:31 PM 1025 Views
yeah there are not vey many US cities I would want to raise kids in random thoughts - 30/08/2011 11:16:52 PM 725 Views
For the record, I found Vancouver quite lovely. Joel - 31/08/2011 05:09:37 PM 972 Views
Quality health care in the US, really? Macharius - 31/08/2011 12:27:41 AM 856 Views
seriously... LadyLorraine - 31/08/2011 05:24:47 AM 785 Views
all you are arguing is quality=free random thoughts - 31/08/2011 12:11:30 PM 796 Views
Also, Aeryn - 31/08/2011 12:53:00 PM 867 Views
no it works out that nicely for most people random thoughts - 31/08/2011 01:36:13 PM 837 Views
How can he afford a week in Vail and not afford insurance? nossy - 31/08/2011 04:22:47 PM 833 Views
a lot of the uninsured are that way from choice random thoughts - 31/08/2011 06:41:42 PM 754 Views
Getting care, getting timely care, getting quality care and paying for it are all different things. Joel - 31/08/2011 03:39:30 PM 1007 Views
tha tis becuase the hospital is run by republicans and they were out to get you *NM* random thoughts - 31/08/2011 07:37:47 PM 552 Views
Nothing in Travis County is run by Republicans. Joel - 31/08/2011 07:46:42 PM 850 Views
Livability obviously doesn't include "Concentration of Venomous Creatures". *NM* TaskmasterJack - 30/08/2011 11:43:43 PM 423 Views
or perhaps Australian cities rank so high because they're so much better than the alternative Zaphod - 30/08/2011 11:58:47 PM 914 Views
Actually, the reason our cities are so liveable is because they're built to keep said creatures out Colonel Logain - 31/08/2011 12:59:01 AM 742 Views
How? ironclad - 31/08/2011 08:20:01 AM 734 Views
I can't risk putting the answer on a public forum, the venomous creatures may find out Colonel Logain - 01/09/2011 07:26:52 AM 682 Views
Why no Boston? *NM* Ghavrel - 31/08/2011 12:16:28 AM 404 Views
Annoyingness of local sports fans was also taken into consideration. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 31/08/2011 12:31:21 AM 511 Views
Obviously the study group consists of Yankees fans. Poor, unfortunate souls. *NM* Ghavrel - 31/08/2011 12:46:17 AM 389 Views
A low population density seems to be a key determinant in these rankings Colonel Logain - 31/08/2011 12:51:45 AM 724 Views
There is an obvious mistake Druid - 31/08/2011 03:07:31 AM 1049 Views
I was almost killed by a wombat LadyLorraine - 31/08/2011 05:26:28 AM 704 Views
you should print that on a tee shirt and sell it random thoughts - 31/08/2011 09:11:18 PM 727 Views
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