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Also, Aeryn Send a noteboard - 31/08/2011 12:53:00 PM
I'm all for socialized healthcare, and I think for-profit business does not belong in a lot of areas, and it screws a lot of people over big time. But, when my family was in dire straits and needed help, we were able to get care.

1 year after coming to America, my dad slipped and fell, getting a complex fracture on his leg. Didn't have health insurance, didn't have money. Still, he had surgery immediately and was fine a year later. When we went to pay the bill several years later (the owner of the building where he fell paid up), the medical bill had been paid by a charity.

When I needed expensive prescription meds, I was able to get Medicaid, even being a single adult.

Now I know that it doesn't work out nearly so nicely for a lot of people, and the fact that we live in a blue state generous with its benefits helps too. Still, you can't say healthcare in America is awful. It probably works well enough for the majority.
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You kind of inadvertently prove the point... Legolas - 30/08/2011 09:21:18 PM 992 Views
So I see! Nate - 30/08/2011 09:45:27 PM 1007 Views
A million people isn't a city? Nate - 30/08/2011 08:28:20 PM 921 Views
Not necessarily. Tom - 30/08/2011 10:49:08 PM 890 Views
You could be right re: population density. Nate - 30/08/2011 11:06:36 PM 829 Views
Re: Not necessarily. Zaphod - 30/08/2011 11:56:20 PM 906 Views
He's spoilt by living in New York Stephen - 31/08/2011 01:26:02 AM 974 Views
That probably is part of it. Tom - 31/08/2011 02:14:41 AM 776 Views
to meet their definition of best it also seems to help if you have mostly white random thoughts - 31/08/2011 01:52:11 PM 781 Views
Have you been to Toronto or Vancouver ? wheelwright - 31/08/2011 04:02:01 PM 796 Views
no but I have the internet and they meet the ethnic description I gave random thoughts - 31/08/2011 05:25:40 PM 891 Views
Yeah, I'm sorry, but you're fairly off with that one. Nate - 31/08/2011 04:52:25 PM 847 Views
OK you did see where I included Asians didn't you and I would call less than 2% significant random thoughts - 31/08/2011 05:31:45 PM 842 Views
I believe your words ... Nate - 31/08/2011 05:49:26 PM 827 Views
yeah sprinkling was probably an understatement random thoughts - 31/08/2011 07:36:16 PM 1043 Views
As a comparison ... Nate - 30/08/2011 08:37:28 PM 949 Views
that can be a little misleading random thoughts - 30/08/2011 09:18:22 PM 882 Views
Point taken. Nate - 30/08/2011 09:49:54 PM 964 Views
Not enough Europe, apparently ironclad - 30/08/2011 08:13:48 PM 841 Views
Re: Europe Nate - 30/08/2011 09:32:17 PM 865 Views
Interesting ironclad - 30/08/2011 09:59:27 PM 1003 Views
but everything tries to kill you in Oz Yunalesca - 30/08/2011 08:41:51 PM 794 Views
That's what keeps you fit and healthy. *NM* Nate - 30/08/2011 09:17:32 PM 418 Views
weather is a factor and three Canadian cities made the top ten? random thoughts - 30/08/2011 09:22:32 PM 924 Views
Vancouver at least has a nice climate. Nate - 30/08/2011 09:40:31 PM 1042 Views
yeah there are not vey many US cities I would want to raise kids in random thoughts - 30/08/2011 11:16:52 PM 751 Views
For the record, I found Vancouver quite lovely. Joel - 31/08/2011 05:09:37 PM 990 Views
Quality health care in the US, really? Macharius - 31/08/2011 12:27:41 AM 883 Views
seriously... LadyLorraine - 31/08/2011 05:24:47 AM 806 Views
all you are arguing is quality=free random thoughts - 31/08/2011 12:11:30 PM 818 Views
Also, Aeryn - 31/08/2011 12:53:00 PM 882 Views
no it works out that nicely for most people random thoughts - 31/08/2011 01:36:13 PM 852 Views
How can he afford a week in Vail and not afford insurance? nossy - 31/08/2011 04:22:47 PM 850 Views
a lot of the uninsured are that way from choice random thoughts - 31/08/2011 06:41:42 PM 772 Views
Getting care, getting timely care, getting quality care and paying for it are all different things. Joel - 31/08/2011 03:39:30 PM 1026 Views
tha tis becuase the hospital is run by republicans and they were out to get you *NM* random thoughts - 31/08/2011 07:37:47 PM 563 Views
Nothing in Travis County is run by Republicans. Joel - 31/08/2011 07:46:42 PM 868 Views
Livability obviously doesn't include "Concentration of Venomous Creatures". *NM* TaskmasterJack - 30/08/2011 11:43:43 PM 432 Views
or perhaps Australian cities rank so high because they're so much better than the alternative Zaphod - 30/08/2011 11:58:47 PM 941 Views
Actually, the reason our cities are so liveable is because they're built to keep said creatures out Colonel Logain - 31/08/2011 12:59:01 AM 761 Views
How? ironclad - 31/08/2011 08:20:01 AM 757 Views
I can't risk putting the answer on a public forum, the venomous creatures may find out Colonel Logain - 01/09/2011 07:26:52 AM 705 Views
Why no Boston? *NM* Ghavrel - 31/08/2011 12:16:28 AM 414 Views
Annoyingness of local sports fans was also taken into consideration. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 31/08/2011 12:31:21 AM 523 Views
Obviously the study group consists of Yankees fans. Poor, unfortunate souls. *NM* Ghavrel - 31/08/2011 12:46:17 AM 396 Views
A low population density seems to be a key determinant in these rankings Colonel Logain - 31/08/2011 12:51:45 AM 745 Views
There is an obvious mistake Druid - 31/08/2011 03:07:31 AM 1067 Views
I was almost killed by a wombat LadyLorraine - 31/08/2011 05:26:28 AM 723 Views
you should print that on a tee shirt and sell it random thoughts - 31/08/2011 09:11:18 PM 750 Views
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