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I don't know that I'm a "top religiologist", but here goes: Gher Send a noteboard - 08/09/2011 05:35:26 PM
I remember coming up with this argument in college, and then becoming apathetic because no one could come up with a good response and yelled at me anyway.

So, is there an actual answer? (Or rather, are there any official answers according to various churches?)


If I pray for something that is not in keeping with God's plan (I want to be extra sneaky when I break into Igor Moneybags' mansion tonight), I'm getting a no. It was a waste of time.

Many times, if someone prays for something that is good, that is in keeping with God's will, God will grant it. He may have been waiting for the prayer, because praying and asking shows humility and gratitude, and a willingness to follow Him.

I also recently heard that God may grant blessings, but that doesn't mean we receive them. We have to do our part and be worthy and ready.


Does that make sense? (That's sincerity mode. I'm not sure if I explained it very well.)
"And it breaks my heart to look around, and see the unimpressed; who can't believe the emperor is dressed"~Fastball
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I figured I'd put RAFO's top religiologists on the case beetnemesis - 08/09/2011 02:03:55 PM 867 Views
The real answer is there is no effect because God is not real. Stephen - 08/09/2011 02:23:00 PM 497 Views
Right, I was working from that presumption beetnemesis - 08/09/2011 03:32:31 PM 476 Views
Re: Talking puppies! And kittens! I want! *NM* RomaVenkat - 08/09/2011 03:34:49 PM 211 Views
well I am not religious but that seems a bit of a strawman argument random thoughts - 08/09/2011 05:01:57 PM 504 Views
Hm, so there's a broad Divine Plan, but it doesn't matter either way who wins the Super Bowl? beetnemesis - 08/09/2011 05:25:23 PM 511 Views
Your argument only works if you get to decide who and what god is, like I said strawman random thoughts - 08/09/2011 06:32:17 PM 524 Views
...I don't think I'm really assuming that much. beetnemesis - 08/09/2011 06:43:16 PM 477 Views
I don't know that I'm a "top religiologist", but here goes: Gher - 08/09/2011 05:35:26 PM 593 Views
Re: I don't know that I'm a "top religiologist", but here goes: beetnemesis - 08/09/2011 05:53:36 PM 457 Views
Re: I don't know that I'm a "top religiologist", but here goes: Darth_Katie - 08/09/2011 06:35:55 PM 572 Views
Oooh, can I be a top religiologist? ranagrande - 08/09/2011 06:52:18 PM 595 Views
I can totally do this. Vivien - 08/09/2011 06:57:19 PM 519 Views
Believe it or not, this is a thought I had when I was little and christian. Vivien - 08/09/2011 07:39:24 PM 521 Views
Predestination is something only strict Calvinists believe. Tom - 08/09/2011 08:53:59 PM 483 Views
Didn't mean to bring up predestination. Vivien - 08/09/2011 09:17:19 PM 499 Views
Sorry. That's how I read it... Tom - 09/09/2011 12:48:07 AM 546 Views
It's not a risk you can refuse... Vivien - 09/09/2011 06:04:44 AM 471 Views
Many choices in life are risky. Tom - 09/09/2011 03:15:49 PM 448 Views
It's a very silly argument that the T Rex is making. Tom - 08/09/2011 07:22:23 PM 467 Views
I think that looking for an absolute answer re: religion is pretty silly. nossy - 08/09/2011 08:22:16 PM 466 Views
wrong place *NM* Dannymac - 09/09/2011 05:00:52 AM 188 Views
Prayer is not a request line. Dannymac - 09/09/2011 05:03:10 AM 582 Views
That's a tough one... Isaac - 09/09/2011 01:27:25 PM 444 Views
That's part of the charm. Darth_Katie - 09/09/2011 08:50:05 PM 434 Views
Re: That's part of the charm. Isaac - 13/09/2011 12:08:45 AM 539 Views
I'm treating this like a survey even though you didn't make it one: It's about a relationship. Joel - 12/09/2011 11:23:45 PM 518 Views
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