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I agree and disagree Amyrlin Send a noteboard - 14/09/2011 09:53:01 PM
It is well known that you are a guy that is 100% only interested in very small framed women - and you even married one. And that's 100% fine. It's what you like, it's what you want. It's what you should have.

But to go all out like this against "fat people" because they use words like "plus sized" and say that they are just justifying bad behavior by doing so? Shame on you.

I'm fat, and have been for a very long time. I ALWAYS refer to myself as "fat", and never any other way because it simply is the truth. You wouldn't catch me in a bikini EVER, and very likely would not catch me in a swimsuit - and I L.O.V.E. the water. I HATE the way I look, and am working on it (with some success I might add), but it's an emotional, stressful process for me.

Every single morning when I've woken up for many years, my thought as I get in the shower has been , I think "TODAY is the day I start this diet thing! TODAY I am going to eat better!" and until April, that lasted until the first big stresser of the day and I had a bagel or fru fru coffee, or whatever. I didn't get drunk, or snort coke or get some other kind of high, I ATE.

Now. Having said all that - I saw this post and thought at first that the last thing I wanted was to see a fat girl in a bikini - but it wasn't bad. And it was VERY SWEET of Vivian to remember that people mentioned not being able to find good fitting clothes and posting this.

I just think that we are all entitled to our own opinions - God Bless America and all that - but your comment was very harsh, and really quite unnecessary - and even a little bit hurtful.

I'm not trying to argue with you - God knows I wouldn't win that - and I know that you are very often harsh and painfully direct, but I just didn't see the need for your extra harsh words here.

I get it. Society has pushed an overly thin image of women that makes women who don't meet that standard feel bad and have self-esteem issues. It leads to anorexia, bulemia and serious psychological problems. Yes. That is bad. Yes. It is good to have women with more full figures in visible places.

However, this desire is now intersecting with another negative tendency in society, and that's the tendency to try to justify any bad lifestyle choices that people make. Fat people are fat, not "plus-size". "Plus-size" means having a bigger frame or a fuller figure, but it shouldn't give obese people license to feel like there's nothing wrong with their weight, because there is. They get diabetes, knee problems, heart disease, and a whole host of other health problems.


If fat people want to go out and put on skimpy clothes, fine. Let's just call a spade a spade, though, and say, "Bikinis for fat women!"
Amy

By the way, I miss you too.~KB
1971-2006
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Bikinis for well endowed women - 14/09/2011 04:19:39 PM 1033 Views
Well done on the double post *NM* - 14/09/2011 04:31:36 PM 215 Views
Why do I always double post? I don't mean to. *NM* - 14/09/2011 05:00:34 PM 244 Views
Over enthuasiastically jabbing the submit button? - 14/09/2011 05:27:15 PM 418 Views
I'm for. *NM* - 14/09/2011 05:56:05 PM 214 Views
God bless big breasted women *NM* - 14/09/2011 06:11:59 PM 264 Views
and God doubly bless large breasted women in bikinis *NM* - 14/09/2011 09:41:49 PM 268 Views
The woman on the right is just fat, probably dangerously so. *NM* - 14/09/2011 06:29:07 PM 230 Views
Would not having a well fitting bikini top make her magically lose weight? - 14/09/2011 07:18:49 PM 473 Views
I protest the "I'm okay, you're okay" drivel inherent in the statement "plus-size". - 14/09/2011 08:30:34 PM 502 Views
I agree with you on this. - 14/09/2011 08:37:50 PM 658 Views
It's not that they're real and you're not. It's that they're real *too*. - 14/09/2011 09:15:24 PM 577 Views
I get that. But that's not what they say. And it's not just an advertising campaign. - 14/09/2011 09:35:03 PM 509 Views
You get a range of healthy sizes in regular stores. - 14/09/2011 10:24:20 PM 591 Views
Re: You get a range of healthy sizes in regular stores. - 14/09/2011 10:28:18 PM 647 Views
They have to over emphasize that it's ok precisely because society keeps saying that it's not - 14/09/2011 08:51:03 PM 514 Views
But it ISN'T - 15/09/2011 03:26:43 AM 567 Views
Exactly- smoking is so much worse! - 15/09/2011 06:07:04 AM 702 Views
No. - 15/09/2011 05:11:54 PM 628 Views
I agree and disagree - 14/09/2011 09:53:01 PM 696 Views
I don't mind the directness, I want someone to engage/argue with me. - 14/09/2011 10:37:02 PM 572 Views
That would be me. - 15/09/2011 03:07:19 AM 463 Views
Your friend sounds hot. - 15/09/2011 05:38:18 AM 565 Views
Your friend sounds like me - 15/09/2011 03:21:18 PM 484 Views
*NM* - 16/09/2011 02:43:45 AM 246 Views
I would encourage you to go back and read my exact post. - 15/09/2011 03:21:02 AM 584 Views
What makes you think that fat shaming is effective in making fat people lose weight? - 15/09/2011 05:26:17 AM 619 Views
that is not what he is saying - 15/09/2011 06:43:04 AM 590 Views
I agree - 27/09/2011 07:54:19 PM 648 Views
Should she have a disclaimer across her chest- my breasts are only big because of fat? - 14/09/2011 07:31:29 PM 517 Views
BwahahAHHAhAHHAhHAhAHhaa. Yes. Just what I was thinking. ^_^ - 16/09/2011 04:38:54 AM 717 Views
Right. - 21/09/2011 10:36:22 PM 519 Views
They are nice bikinis, for bikinis. - 14/09/2011 08:51:19 PM 578 Views
I would be kind of tempted by the boy shorts with the strings. - 14/09/2011 08:59:15 PM 589 Views
Boy shorts and a tankini top I could cope with. - 14/09/2011 09:02:54 PM 640 Views
Tankinis!? - 14/09/2011 09:21:38 PM 679 Views
they do look cute. - 14/09/2011 11:23:54 PM 529 Views
Tankinis!? Or the stuff in the link? - 14/09/2011 11:29:39 PM 626 Views
Tankini. *NM* - 14/09/2011 11:30:20 PM 231 Views
I might go for a tankini next summer... - 28/09/2011 08:48:00 PM 640 Views
Best horizontal scrollbar ever. *NM* - 14/09/2011 10:48:47 PM 267 Views
The fat woman disappeared! *NM* - 05/10/2011 11:27:22 AM 238 Views
"All bikinis 50% off" said the sign in the window - 15/09/2011 01:51:22 AM 548 Views
"well-endowed women" and "plus-size women" *NM* - 16/09/2011 02:06:10 PM 265 Views
?? *NM* - 16/09/2011 07:01:42 PM 244 Views
redundant and inaccurate. - 16/09/2011 07:56:40 PM 418 Views
I was saying - 16/09/2011 08:10:09 PM 551 Views
Should it really, though? There's no ambiguity in "well endowed women". - 16/09/2011 09:31:42 PM 423 Views
I might have inherited a pit of water from my father? *NM* - 05/10/2011 11:28:30 AM 203 Views
yeah, bikinis always seem aimed at smaller boobs... - 18/09/2011 06:41:24 PM 510 Views
Re: yeah, bikinis always seem aimed at smaller boobs... - 18/09/2011 06:45:00 PM 495 Views
LOL - 18/09/2011 09:52:28 PM 589 Views

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