Actually, I think you AND Tom, as well as Isaac, are right.
Joel Send a noteboard - 19/09/2011 07:13:56 AM
Yes, the Republicans will reject any tax of any kind (they did recently dust off their "we should tax people on food stamps more" idea, but I think that was more spite and role reversal than an actual policy proposal). Yes, they've been quite open about that from the start, and it's actually hurting Congressional Republicans in the polls; it's just that the whole debate is hurting Obama as well (though to a lesser degree), creating a great opening for any Republican GOVERNOR who doesn't let themselves get sucked into embracing unpopular Congressional Republican policy just to suck up to their base (advantage: Romney.
) And, yes, Obama is just trying to paint Republicans as selfish plutocrats to secure re-election, rather than sincerely suggesting a policy he wants to implement. He knows he can't implement it, but he wants to put the Republicans on record as supporting robber barons in the 2012 election, so he doesn't lose his job over the fact that everyone else has lost theirs. The article you posted as much as says that.
The sadder and more frustrating truth is that Obama doesn't give a dead rats rump about Warren Buffets taxes, he's just PRETENDING to because he knows a large majority of the public does and he thinks his pretense will get their votes (again.) It's not like this disparity suddenly sprang up out of nowhere; it was there when Democrats had both houses of Congress and Obama was too busy handing out corporate welfare to insurance and auto companies to care about millionaire taxes. All that's changed now is that there's an election next year so it's time to beat the socialist drum again and hope people still buy it.
) And, yes, Obama is just trying to paint Republicans as selfish plutocrats to secure re-election, rather than sincerely suggesting a policy he wants to implement. He knows he can't implement it, but he wants to put the Republicans on record as supporting robber barons in the 2012 election, so he doesn't lose his job over the fact that everyone else has lost theirs. The article you posted as much as says that.The sadder and more frustrating truth is that Obama doesn't give a dead rats rump about Warren Buffets taxes, he's just PRETENDING to because he knows a large majority of the public does and he thinks his pretense will get their votes (again.) It's not like this disparity suddenly sprang up out of nowhere; it was there when Democrats had both houses of Congress and Obama was too busy handing out corporate welfare to insurance and auto companies to care about millionaire taxes. All that's changed now is that there's an election next year so it's time to beat the socialist drum again and hope people still buy it.
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Ok so increasing taxes on people making 1million+ is also NOT ok with Republicans
- 18/09/2011 04:43:29 PM
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You act surprised, this has been said since the beginning, openly and repeatedly
- 18/09/2011 05:48:57 PM
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is this pledge legally binding?
- 18/09/2011 06:52:44 PM
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Re: is this pledge legally binding?
- 18/09/2011 08:14:49 PM
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That's rather easy though, isn't it?
- 18/09/2011 09:02:49 PM
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Not really
- 18/09/2011 10:02:12 PM
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Many will find any pledge unreasonable.
- 19/09/2011 07:01:20 AM
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Too bad for them, any pledge stands or falls on its own merits just like in real life
- 19/09/2011 08:35:13 PM
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If elected I pledge not to post on the RPMB.
- 20/09/2011 01:54:00 PM
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- 20/09/2011 01:54:00 PM
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That didn't really make sense
- 20/09/2011 07:26:40 PM
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Sure it does: Pledging to do what one wanted to do anyway is rhetoric, not principle.
- 20/09/2011 08:04:25 PM
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Now you're debating with the definition of the word
- 20/09/2011 08:22:53 PM
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No, I accept the definition of the word, but reject cynical abuse of it.
- 21/09/2011 01:37:01 AM
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Could have done with out the kegger imagery
But this just makes it your opinion
- 21/09/2011 02:10:47 AM
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But this just makes it your opinion
- 21/09/2011 02:10:47 AM
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There is a problem with compromise in this situation and lot of it the way it is being framed
- 19/09/2011 02:57:32 PM
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and if a republican becomes president, i'm sure all taxes will go up in 2013
- 20/09/2011 04:39:21 PM
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Well, I'm glad they've at least raised the income range they were discussing. *NM*
- 18/09/2011 06:10:57 PM
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This really doesn't address what Buffet was talking about, but that's not a surprise either.
- 18/09/2011 08:35:25 PM
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Simple change the law so capital gains are considered income, that will increase taxes on the rich *NM*
- 19/09/2011 01:21:41 AM
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They are already.
- 19/09/2011 02:42:08 AM
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Maybe I should be clearer
- 19/09/2011 02:59:34 AM
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I've long felt the capital gains rate has ruined public companies
- 19/09/2011 05:13:40 AM
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Actually, I think you AND Tom, as well as Isaac, are right.
- 19/09/2011 07:13:56 AM
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Class warfare doesn't work.....if it did, the R's would not have kicked butt in 2010
- 19/09/2011 03:21:17 PM
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"If there's a class war in this country, my class is winning."--Warren Buffet
- 20/09/2011 07:54:45 PM
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There should be a set tax percentage that every US citizen pays. *NM*
- 19/09/2011 01:25:13 PM
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+1 - a flat tax, with no or limited deductions is the way to go *NM*
- 19/09/2011 03:16:53 PM
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Agreed
- 19/09/2011 03:46:47 PM
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"Deserve's got nothin' to do with it."
- 20/09/2011 02:48:19 PM
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I fully advocate massive cuts to both entitlement programs and military spending *NM*
- 20/09/2011 11:53:10 PM
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And every child should be adequately fed and recieve a good education *NM*
- 19/09/2011 10:40:58 PM
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Why not a fixed wage for all US workers; then the problem solves itself.
- 20/09/2011 01:56:35 PM
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- 20/09/2011 01:56:35 PM
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That works if you get rid of regressive taxes like the sales tax.
- 21/09/2011 04:34:07 PM
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a lot of people don't seem to understand that sales tax is a regressive tax
- 21/09/2011 04:44:16 PM
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It doesn't have to be
- 21/09/2011 07:45:31 PM
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Your solution is to tax people's savings? Tax "money storage", so that would be banks, right?
- 21/09/2011 10:29:36 PM
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