Rich people don't deserve to have their income taxed more than the rest of us. Have every citizen do their part by paying the same percentage of their income in taxes and then let them keep the rest of their rightfully earned money. From the richest to the poorest, it's their money and none of them deserve to be soaked for more money than anyone else.
Or to borrow a line Snopes says Willie Sutton never uttered, soaking the rich is less about spite or punitive measures and more the fact "that's where the money is." One of your neighbors (et al.) once observed that Robin Hood didn't stole from the rich because stealing from the poor is pointless, not out of principle.
All of which is to say, everything costs money, whether in government or the private sector. Provided we carefully watch the people we elect to count our beans, a lot of things cost LESS if paid for with taxes instead of directly out of our individual pockets, but still aren't free. Lockheed manufactures stealth fighters for profit, not patriotism, and if we want to keep deploying them we'll spend tax money for the privilege.
Whether or not it's fair to expect people who flip burgers to devote as large a percentage of their income to that as do the people paying them, it's not realistic because you can't get blood from a stone. Adopting the flat 15% income tax Senator Lamar Alexander famously suggested would devastate our national defence as well as result in millions of elderly and/or poor people starving to death in the streets; even he implicitly recognized this when he revived his proposal three years ago as a 17% flat tax. Endorsing a flat tax is endorsing either that or a big increase in your own taxes, so if you want neither of those things I strongly suggest reconsidering your endorsement of a flat tax that would--MUST--inevitably cause (at least) one of them.
Personally, I understand (sort of) the Libertarian view that all forms of government are a pernicious evil best eliminated, that taxes are thus an inseparable and particularly undesirable form of that evil. What flabbergasts me is that many Republicans embrace the "my country, right or wrong!" philosophy, then turn right around and finanically hamstring the object of their fanatical devotion. No organization can be run on a shoe string budget, and that definitely includes the government of the most powerful nation in history. We tax the rich more, as every advanced nation does, because we need the money and they're the ones who have it, not out of malice. Whether or not it's fair, that's the cold hard reality; while changing reality is, to an extent, a viable option, until we change that one a flat tax is NOT viable.
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This message last edited by Joel on 20/09/2011 at 02:51:04 PM
Ok so increasing taxes on people making 1million+ is also NOT ok with Republicans
- 18/09/2011 04:43:29 PM
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You act surprised, this has been said since the beginning, openly and repeatedly
- 18/09/2011 05:48:57 PM
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is this pledge legally binding?
- 18/09/2011 06:52:44 PM
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Re: is this pledge legally binding?
- 18/09/2011 08:14:49 PM
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That's rather easy though, isn't it?
- 18/09/2011 09:02:49 PM
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Not really
- 18/09/2011 10:02:12 PM
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Many will find any pledge unreasonable.
- 19/09/2011 07:01:20 AM
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Too bad for them, any pledge stands or falls on its own merits just like in real life
- 19/09/2011 08:35:13 PM
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If elected I pledge not to post on the RPMB.
- 20/09/2011 01:54:00 PM
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- 20/09/2011 01:54:00 PM
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That didn't really make sense
- 20/09/2011 07:26:40 PM
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Sure it does: Pledging to do what one wanted to do anyway is rhetoric, not principle.
- 20/09/2011 08:04:25 PM
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Now you're debating with the definition of the word
- 20/09/2011 08:22:53 PM
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No, I accept the definition of the word, but reject cynical abuse of it.
- 21/09/2011 01:37:01 AM
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Could have done with out the kegger imagery
But this just makes it your opinion
- 21/09/2011 02:10:47 AM
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But this just makes it your opinion
- 21/09/2011 02:10:47 AM
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There is a problem with compromise in this situation and lot of it the way it is being framed
- 19/09/2011 02:57:32 PM
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and if a republican becomes president, i'm sure all taxes will go up in 2013
- 20/09/2011 04:39:21 PM
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Well, I'm glad they've at least raised the income range they were discussing. *NM*
- 18/09/2011 06:10:57 PM
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This really doesn't address what Buffet was talking about, but that's not a surprise either.
- 18/09/2011 08:35:25 PM
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Simple change the law so capital gains are considered income, that will increase taxes on the rich *NM*
- 19/09/2011 01:21:41 AM
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They are already.
- 19/09/2011 02:42:08 AM
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Maybe I should be clearer
- 19/09/2011 02:59:34 AM
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I've long felt the capital gains rate has ruined public companies
- 19/09/2011 05:13:40 AM
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Actually, I think you AND Tom, as well as Isaac, are right.
- 19/09/2011 07:13:56 AM
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Class warfare doesn't work.....if it did, the R's would not have kicked butt in 2010
- 19/09/2011 03:21:17 PM
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"If there's a class war in this country, my class is winning."--Warren Buffet
- 20/09/2011 07:54:45 PM
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There should be a set tax percentage that every US citizen pays. *NM*
- 19/09/2011 01:25:13 PM
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+1 - a flat tax, with no or limited deductions is the way to go *NM*
- 19/09/2011 03:16:53 PM
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Agreed
- 19/09/2011 03:46:47 PM
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"Deserve's got nothin' to do with it."
- 20/09/2011 02:48:19 PM
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I fully advocate massive cuts to both entitlement programs and military spending *NM*
- 20/09/2011 11:53:10 PM
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And every child should be adequately fed and recieve a good education *NM*
- 19/09/2011 10:40:58 PM
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Why not a fixed wage for all US workers; then the problem solves itself.
- 20/09/2011 01:56:35 PM
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- 20/09/2011 01:56:35 PM
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That works if you get rid of regressive taxes like the sales tax.
- 21/09/2011 04:34:07 PM
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a lot of people don't seem to understand that sales tax is a regressive tax
- 21/09/2011 04:44:16 PM
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It doesn't have to be
- 21/09/2011 07:45:31 PM
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Your solution is to tax people's savings? Tax "money storage", so that would be banks, right?
- 21/09/2011 10:29:36 PM
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