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That didn't really make sense Isaac Send a noteboard - 20/09/2011 07:26:40 PM
The entirety of your argument seems to be that pledges and promises mean nothing, as opposed to my own which said they only mean something if you enforce them by calling breakers to account and that each pledge has to be weighed on its own merits... I can't believe you're even arguing this with me. And that you don't like the pledge is no concern of mine, you want to raise taxes, you are a liberal, you have no reason to like the pledge. I would not like a pledge where people said "I will only appoint pro-choice judges" but that's hardly and illegitimate pledge showing someone is obstinate. If all you've got to rebut with is cynicism, and illogical cynicism at that, don't waste my time.
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Ok so increasing taxes on people making 1million+ is also NOT ok with Republicans Aisha - 18/09/2011 04:43:29 PM 1236 Views
You act surprised, this has been said since the beginning, openly and repeatedly Isaac - 18/09/2011 05:48:57 PM 602 Views
is this pledge legally binding? Aisha - 18/09/2011 06:52:44 PM 535 Views
Re: is this pledge legally binding? Isaac - 18/09/2011 08:14:49 PM 747 Views
read my lips still haunts them *NM* random thoughts - 18/09/2011 08:23:29 PM 458 Views
And with good reason Isaac - 18/09/2011 08:38:10 PM 696 Views
That's rather easy though, isn't it? Legolas - 18/09/2011 09:02:49 PM 747 Views
Not really Isaac - 18/09/2011 10:02:12 PM 703 Views
Many will find any pledge unreasonable. Joel - 19/09/2011 07:01:20 AM 650 Views
Too bad for them, any pledge stands or falls on its own merits just like in real life Isaac - 19/09/2011 08:35:13 PM 657 Views
If elected I pledge not to post on the RPMB. Joel - 20/09/2011 01:54:00 PM 784 Views
That didn't really make sense Isaac - 20/09/2011 07:26:40 PM 707 Views
Sure it does: Pledging to do what one wanted to do anyway is rhetoric, not principle. Joel - 20/09/2011 08:04:25 PM 753 Views
Now you're debating with the definition of the word Isaac - 20/09/2011 08:22:53 PM 725 Views
No, I accept the definition of the word, but reject cynical abuse of it. Joel - 21/09/2011 01:37:01 AM 769 Views
Could have done with out the kegger imagery But this just makes it your opinion Isaac - 21/09/2011 02:10:47 AM 680 Views
Sorry; I knew that one was a bit too graphic and did it anyway. Joel - 21/09/2011 05:34:45 AM 709 Views
There is a problem with compromise in this situation and lot of it the way it is being framed random thoughts - 19/09/2011 02:57:32 PM 720 Views
and if a republican becomes president, i'm sure all taxes will go up in 2013 moondog - 20/09/2011 04:39:21 PM 777 Views
????? Isaac - 20/09/2011 07:16:00 PM 616 Views
Well, I'm glad they've at least raised the income range they were discussing. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 18/09/2011 06:10:57 PM 330 Views
not that it really matters Aisha - 18/09/2011 06:57:21 PM 752 Views
This really doesn't address what Buffet was talking about, but that's not a surprise either. Praziquantel - 18/09/2011 08:35:25 PM 566 Views
Don't confuse posturing with actual positions. Tom - 18/09/2011 08:59:42 PM 631 Views
NO TAX INCREASES ON ANYONE, NOT ONE PENNY..... trzaska2000 - 18/09/2011 11:15:11 PM 761 Views
George Carlin has a great routine on shit and stuff Roland00 - 19/09/2011 01:32:22 AM 669 Views
So you're solution is... do nothing? *NM* callandor1000 - 21/09/2011 03:39:06 AM 432 Views
Simple change the law so capital gains are considered income, that will increase taxes on the rich *NM* Roland00 - 19/09/2011 01:21:41 AM 299 Views
They are already. Praziquantel - 19/09/2011 02:42:08 AM 536 Views
Maybe I should be clearer Roland00 - 19/09/2011 02:59:34 AM 693 Views
I've long felt the capital gains rate has ruined public companies Tom - 19/09/2011 05:13:40 AM 598 Views
I agree with all that *NM* Roland00 - 19/09/2011 01:00:35 PM 425 Views
Actually, I think you AND Tom, as well as Isaac, are right. Joel - 19/09/2011 07:13:56 AM 821 Views
Class warfare doesn't work.....if it did, the R's would not have kicked butt in 2010 trzaska2000 - 19/09/2011 03:21:17 PM 598 Views
"If there's a class war in this country, my class is winning."--Warren Buffet Joel - 20/09/2011 07:54:45 PM 734 Views
There should be a set tax percentage that every US citizen pays. *NM* heartbreak - 19/09/2011 01:25:13 PM 342 Views
+1 - a flat tax, with no or limited deductions is the way to go *NM* trzaska2000 - 19/09/2011 03:16:53 PM 284 Views
Agreed ßelals Girl - 19/09/2011 03:46:47 PM 696 Views
"Deserve's got nothin' to do with it." Joel - 20/09/2011 02:48:19 PM 681 Views
I fully advocate massive cuts to both entitlement programs and military spending *NM* ßelals Girl - 20/09/2011 11:53:10 PM 319 Views
I suspected that, but wasn't sure. Joel - 25/09/2011 03:03:47 PM 769 Views
I was just going to say the same thing Hieshyn - 19/09/2011 08:23:39 PM 863 Views
And every child should be adequately fed and recieve a good education *NM* Roland00 - 19/09/2011 10:40:58 PM 295 Views
Why not a fixed wage for all US workers; then the problem solves itself. Joel - 20/09/2011 01:56:35 PM 560 Views
Wages are set by economic factors, not the government ßelals Girl - 20/09/2011 07:46:18 PM 525 Views
well they wouldn't be in a worker's paradise *NM* random thoughts - 20/09/2011 08:25:56 PM 297 Views
Sorry, didn't see this until now. Joel - 27/09/2011 11:31:39 PM 767 Views
That works if you get rid of regressive taxes like the sales tax. Vivien - 21/09/2011 04:34:07 PM 574 Views
a lot of people don't seem to understand that sales tax is a regressive tax random thoughts - 21/09/2011 04:44:16 PM 633 Views
It doesn't have to be Isaac - 21/09/2011 07:45:31 PM 736 Views
Your solution is to tax people's savings? Tax "money storage", so that would be banks, right? Vivien - 21/09/2011 10:29:36 PM 717 Views
I don't recall saying it was my solution Isaac - 25/09/2011 05:01:56 PM 795 Views
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