I've seen good teachers fired before bad ones because of tenure. I HATE tenure. But tenure does serve a purpose: it ensures that faculty can't just get under-bid for a job by the bright-eyed idealists coming in every year.
Teachers sacrifice a lot to do what they do, namely, educate our children. And in return they get blamed for all the failures, and have to try to fit to the whims of every new government that comes through.
The union system is not ideal... but for now it is all they have.
Funny how Conservatives are all for "supporting the troops" when it means sending them to die, but lose their cool when it might actually cost money to support those troops after they've sacrificed their health for the nation.
Maybe if you're not willing to pay to care for soldiers after a conflict, the conflict wasn't worthwhile in the first place. Of course, that would disrupt conservatives from getting that high everytime they start a war like they're playing with toy soldiers.
Teachers sacrifice a lot to do what they do, namely, educate our children. And in return they get blamed for all the failures, and have to try to fit to the whims of every new government that comes through.
The union system is not ideal... but for now it is all they have.
Funny how Conservatives are all for "supporting the troops" when it means sending them to die, but lose their cool when it might actually cost money to support those troops after they've sacrificed their health for the nation.
Maybe if you're not willing to pay to care for soldiers after a conflict, the conflict wasn't worthwhile in the first place. Of course, that would disrupt conservatives from getting that high everytime they start a war like they're playing with toy soldiers.
Eschew Verbosity
This message last edited by Dannymac on 20/09/2011 at 09:04:21 PM
Washington Teachers refuse Judge order to return to work.
- 19/09/2011 11:05:13 PM
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What's the dispute on?
- 19/09/2011 11:13:24 PM
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Seniority, Class Size, and Salaries.
- 19/09/2011 11:41:40 PM
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and children have a right to an education.
- 20/09/2011 12:30:20 AM
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So we ought to pay for it.
- 20/09/2011 05:48:34 PM
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They aren't solving any problems.
- 20/09/2011 08:33:22 PM
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Have you heard of another tactic that makes anyone listen?
- 21/09/2011 12:41:05 AM
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I don't really have any ideas myself. It's not my strong suit (political wrangling, that is)
- 21/09/2011 01:00:21 AM
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I don't really agree with seniority/tenure as much, but class size...
- 20/09/2011 07:42:39 PM
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You have to respect people for seeking more money? Seriously?
- 20/09/2011 12:23:22 AM
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you missed the whole other part where he talks abotu class size and what not
- 20/09/2011 02:05:12 AM
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Class size is a bullshit argument that teachers' unions push on people.
- 20/09/2011 03:25:58 AM
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You don't get to use the "Think of the Children" argument... it belongs to the teachers.
- 20/09/2011 05:52:36 PM
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You don't mean DC, right? I'm roommates with a DC teacher, I feel like I would have noticed
- 20/09/2011 01:02:00 AM
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seriously. if you break it down hourly...
- 20/09/2011 01:48:40 AM
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Eh... I'm more union-friendly than most, but teachers' unions are pretty terrible. *NM*
- 20/09/2011 06:11:09 AM
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I agree they have a lot of "stuff," but I don't think much of it is unwarranted
- 20/09/2011 02:30:35 PM
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being anti-teacher's union is not the same as being anti-teacher
- 20/09/2011 03:32:57 PM
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That is similar to claiming to be pro-soldier and cutting the VA.
- 20/09/2011 06:03:29 PM
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of please
- 20/09/2011 06:56:04 PM
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You still don't get it, do you?
- 20/09/2011 08:57:52 PM
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Do you have facts about how teachers are rated?
- 20/09/2011 08:08:04 PM
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well teachers are rated differently in different systems
- 20/09/2011 09:23:43 PM
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there are some really shitty charter schools too.
- 20/09/2011 09:36:42 PM
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and they need to learn form the charter schools that are doing well
- 20/09/2011 10:06:19 PM
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well there's some problems there
- 21/09/2011 12:20:27 AM
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I've little sympathy here
- 20/09/2011 03:08:58 AM
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I have no sympathy whatsoever.
- 20/09/2011 03:26:29 AM
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Oooh, Cancer is a horrible disease that spreads wildly and kills you!
- 20/09/2011 06:04:53 PM
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Public sector unions need to be banned
- 20/09/2011 04:30:00 AM
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+1, as per FDR and union leaders of that time, public unions are asking for trouble/problems. *NM*
- 20/09/2011 06:52:37 PM
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No, they need to be replaced.
- 20/09/2011 09:05:52 PM
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no they breed corruption and need to at the minimum be barred from political donations and strikes
- 20/09/2011 09:51:38 PM
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Fired them all, hire new teachers, end of problem..... *NM*
- 20/09/2011 06:51:01 PM
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You missed the memo.
- 20/09/2011 09:45:55 PM
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I would bet a lot of them will show up for the hire back interviews *NM*
- 20/09/2011 10:07:05 PM
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+1, a huge number of them will come crawling back for jobs. *NM*
- 20/09/2011 10:11:09 PM
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