Well, you can worry about what might happen.
Lews_TherinThelamon Send a noteboard - 22/09/2011 09:17:02 AM
I just tell you of things as they already are. Y'know, here in the communist, godless country I live in, where women have been allowed in combat positions for more than 20 years. I had no openly homosexual people in my squadron (as far as I know), but I have a friend who had several homosexuals in his unit, and that worked just fine. There's no point worrying about increased drama when you let in gay guys and women, since the gays are already there (only not openly, even though from what I've heard from former US soldiers, you often knew who was gay and you didn't give a shit) and the women have been in non-combat roles for many years, and thus already live on the same bases as the rest of them, so there's plenty of opportunity for sex for everyone already. But people don't follow some old medieval code of knightly conduct just because of the inclusion of possible romantic liaisons. Why? Because it's really, really stupid and contra-productive, and when the shit hits the fan for your latest homo-marine fling while you're having guard duty, you know that there's no damn thing you can do about it from where you are, so you put your hope in their professionalism to save them.
Of course, there will always be idiots being exceptions, but they're there already today, gays or women present or not.
Of course, there will always be idiots being exceptions, but they're there already today, gays or women present or not.
USMC first to fight
- 21/09/2011 03:36:17 PM
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In my imagination it went down something like this:
- 21/09/2011 04:22:08 PM
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There could be some truth to that
- 21/09/2011 04:34:36 PM
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They need military chaplains, right? *NM*
- 21/09/2011 04:36:06 PM
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not in the marines
- 21/09/2011 04:45:48 PM
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I had a friend who was a Navy chaplain attached to the Marine Corps.
- 21/09/2011 07:23:10 PM
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I thought nothing could make the Swedish "dress blues" look worse than it already does.
- 21/09/2011 04:40:08 PM
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Very interesting, but encouraging.
- 21/09/2011 08:28:38 PM
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The answer on women in combat:
- 21/09/2011 10:07:04 PM
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I still worry about how the men will react.
- 22/09/2011 02:33:15 AM
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Well, you can worry about what might happen.
- 22/09/2011 09:17:02 AM
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and how much actual combat have these units seen?
- 22/09/2011 02:40:50 PM
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Sweden has not been involved in many hot conflicts during those years, no
- 22/09/2011 05:04:26 PM
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The real test will be when a country with a non-discriminatory military fights a major war.
- 22/09/2011 04:00:12 PM
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The other branches could benefit in a lot of ways by trying to emulate the Marines
- 22/09/2011 03:25:16 PM
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- 22/09/2011 03:25:16 PM
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Probably.
- 22/09/2011 04:33:49 PM
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The Lynndie England case makes my point
- 22/09/2011 06:16:32 PM
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The Lynndie England case is debatable.
- 22/09/2011 07:28:53 PM
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sorry not interested in arguing rhetoric *NM*
- 22/09/2011 09:01:04 PM
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The US Army Field Manual is policy, not rhetoric.
- 22/09/2011 09:44:58 PM
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no Joel the rheotoric is all you
- 22/09/2011 10:45:29 PM
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Quoting someone is not rhetoric; I am honestly flabbergasted that we are still debating that fact.
- 22/09/2011 11:12:29 PM
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This kind of reminds me of Full Metal Jacket...
- 21/09/2011 10:49:57 PM
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Re: This kind of reminds me of Full Metal Jacket...
- 21/09/2011 11:14:38 PM
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"I bet you could suck a golfball through a garden hose" was NOT a compliment?
- 22/09/2011 11:25:43 PM
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- 22/09/2011 11:25:43 PM
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The only really great thing about that movies is he sounded so much like a drill instructor
- 22/09/2011 03:01:13 PM
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I doubt the sort of person who is interested in the Marines will particularly care about being PC
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- 22/09/2011 10:34:11 PM
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*NM*
- 22/09/2011 10:34:11 PM
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no but they care a lot about having PC forced on the them which happens all the time
- 22/09/2011 10:41:13 PM
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