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don't get me wrong I am not calling for a moderate random thoughts Send a noteboard - 20/10/2011 04:02:01 PM
Just that we inned to get a little more intelligent about how we vet our candidates and that the press should take a more constructive role in the process. I also think that the people who want more depth are making a mistake when they want detailed position plans. Those are useful but not as useful as past performance as an indicator of future performance. If you want to bring radical change that is fine but you need to sell it honestly and you need to show you have a history of successfully bringing that sort of change. Why should we believe you can accomplish something grand if higher you when you have no record of grand accomplishments? Pretty speeches and interesting sounding plans are not enough. That is one of the reasons I wanted Hillary over Obama and the reason I am very worried about Cain. He has accomplished some interesting things when he was the CEO and owner of company and could make all the decisions but he has no track record of being able to pass legislation and implement policies when he can't just fire anyone who disagrees with him. If he was running for dictator his experience might apply but he is running to head one branch of the government and even that one he doesn't control completely.

If I was trying to take shots at liberals I would have pointed out that Obama ran on stopping the gotcha politics of personal attacks and then had his press secretary take cheap personal shots at Palin even though she was not running for any office at the time. One of the other things we need to do is stop accepting ad hominem attacks when the attacks are directed at people we don't like or crying about the how violent and radical the other side is and while ignoring the much worse behavior on our own side. The hypocrisies of attacking the Tea Party and defending the OWS is the sort of BS petty politics we need to get away from. Either you oppose violent rhetoric and civil disobedience or you support it. Either is a valid position but the "I support it for my side but oppose it for your side" really isn't a valid position.
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So I am curious. What do our site conservatives think of Cain? - 18/10/2011 09:35:47 AM 1069 Views
You'd probably be better off asking after tomorrow's debate - 18/10/2011 10:19:50 AM 895 Views
He wasn't Abel ^_^ *NM* - 18/10/2011 01:24:57 PM 279 Views
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! *NM* - 18/10/2011 06:44:55 PM 279 Views
I have trouble taking him seriously - 18/10/2011 01:59:23 PM 753 Views
That is the problem with all Romneys opponents. - 18/10/2011 03:32:50 PM 765 Views
what positions of Perry's do you consider radical? - 18/10/2011 03:56:30 PM 659 Views
Well, abolishing Social Security is pretty far out there, and publicly threatening the Fed Chairman. - 18/10/2011 04:50:03 PM 865 Views
yes but I was talkin about his actuall posistions not the made up stuff *NM* - 18/10/2011 05:10:47 PM 358 Views
When the candidate "makes them up" they are positions. - 18/10/2011 05:26:18 PM 675 Views
all you need to do is provide a link supporting your claim that Perry said he wants to abolish SS - 18/10/2011 05:56:23 PM 616 Views
Really? Do you not watch the news? That's common knowledge *NM* - 18/10/2011 06:04:06 PM 275 Views
Really give me link *NM* - 18/10/2011 06:38:24 PM 275 Views
It is ridiculously simple; here ya go: - 18/10/2011 08:15:24 PM 722 Views
OK he doesn't like it now give me the link where he wants to abolish it - 18/10/2011 09:29:38 PM 651 Views
You see no conflict between this post and your next one? - 18/10/2011 10:16:21 PM 811 Views
no I don't - 18/10/2011 11:36:38 PM 732 Views
By his own statements he either wants to end it or violate the Constitution. - 19/10/2011 12:13:33 AM 702 Views
you really excell at misunderstanding *NM* - 19/10/2011 12:30:32 AM 294 Views
and Perry is right about SS being unconstitutional - 18/10/2011 09:44:14 PM 666 Views
And you criticize MY choice of "unbiased" sources.... - 18/10/2011 10:33:56 PM 791 Views
I'm not a conservative, but - 18/10/2011 04:56:22 PM 697 Views
*hi5* *NM* - 18/10/2011 05:05:19 PM 283 Views
Imagine there is no pizza *NM* - 19/10/2011 12:02:36 AM 296 Views
Cain is the anti-christ? *NM* - 19/10/2011 12:18:21 AM 248 Views
Post-debate, my opinion is fairly unchanged - 19/10/2011 06:35:32 AM 860 Views
Romney slapped Perry down so hard tonight. It was wonderful. - 19/10/2011 06:53:52 AM 743 Views
It was that, I rather enjoyed it - 19/10/2011 07:10:49 AM 693 Views
I promise - 19/10/2011 10:33:49 AM 787 Views
I can see the buttons now: "Vote for... something... maybe...!" - 20/10/2011 10:46:44 AM 1126 Views
...the words made sense by themselves, but when I put them together, meaning vanished. - 20/10/2011 11:33:46 AM 656 Views
Try sounding out each word. - 20/10/2011 11:59:25 AM 734 Views
let me ask you this about Cain - 19/10/2011 01:47:36 PM 787 Views
Why is that, would you think? - 19/10/2011 06:29:53 PM 716 Views
There just seems to be strong lack of good choices - 19/10/2011 06:50:25 PM 767 Views
I'm getting the same impression... not necessarily worse candidates, just more criticism. - 19/10/2011 08:37:21 PM 902 Views
I blame the press - 19/10/2011 09:05:36 PM 868 Views
Amen to that. I agree with everything you say. - 19/10/2011 09:49:45 PM 790 Views
I blame the public, and, to a lesser degree, Nielsen and Armitron. - 20/10/2011 11:39:43 AM 784 Views
tl;dr *NM* - 20/10/2011 12:19:03 PM 278 Views
Still prefer "TL;DV." - 20/10/2011 12:33:41 PM 800 Views
Re: There just seems to be strong lack of good choices - 20/10/2011 03:25:20 PM 1010 Views
don't get me wrong I am not calling for a moderate - 20/10/2011 04:02:01 PM 912 Views
Re: let me ask you this about Cain - 20/10/2011 07:05:43 AM 707 Views

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