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Re: so now that the gays have broken that contract they are fair game? Bored Send a noteboard - 06/01/2012 05:29:49 PM
Do you acknowledge that there is a difference between retaliating against an individual for the things they do and say versus attacking a group for things some of the members in that group do and say?

Yes I realize that there are still plenty of examples of problems with this comparison. For instance, all of the insults thrown at tea-partiers, evangelicals, atheists, muslims, politicians, lawyers, big business, and virtually every other mildly cohesive group of people with views not universally supported.

If you want to bitch about Dan Savage for the "Santorum" campaign he waged, then fine. Try not to assume that all gays support this kind of tactic.
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Santorum is #2 in Iowa Larry - 04/01/2012 01:24:13 PM 1936 Views
would you stop using that word? It is gross. *NM* jh - 04/01/2012 01:48:45 PM 673 Views
What's your word for it? *NM* beetnemesis - 04/01/2012 03:43:44 PM 619 Views
Rövsmör. *NM* jh - 04/01/2012 09:50:21 PM 674 Views
Den var ny för mig. Lews_TherinThelamon - 06/01/2012 12:12:07 AM 881 Views
Well, there's nothing wrong with Santoruming in the privacy of one's home. Tom - 04/01/2012 02:35:56 PM 1272 Views
yeah that it so funny random thoughts - 04/01/2012 03:05:59 PM 1152 Views
he kind of brought it on himself by being so decidedly anti-gay that it pissed lots of people off moondog - 04/01/2012 04:36:39 PM 1176 Views
maybe the gays brought all the gay bashing on themselves random thoughts - 05/01/2012 03:18:15 PM 1395 Views
Civility is a social contract Roland00 - 05/01/2012 04:39:46 PM 1129 Views
so now that the gays have broken that contract they are fair game? random thoughts - 05/01/2012 06:37:52 PM 872 Views
Question have you read the Santorum interview? *NM* Roland00 - 05/01/2012 06:50:24 PM 576 Views
no I try to avoid him random thoughts - 06/01/2012 06:17:45 PM 1001 Views
Re: so now that the gays have broken that contract they are fair game? Bored - 06/01/2012 05:29:49 PM 1159 Views
So is it OK if just insult the gays who are politically active and push their agenda? random thoughts - 06/01/2012 06:16:30 PM 1173 Views
If you call them out by name for hypocrisy, then sure. Bored - 10/01/2012 05:22:34 PM 1199 Views
yes but once you have thrown out all civil decency why start getting nuanced? Ray - 11/01/2012 09:09:13 PM 1116 Views
That's too harsh. Vivien - 06/01/2012 07:29:05 PM 1130 Views
While language changes with time Roland00 - 07/01/2012 04:13:28 AM 1126 Views
I have to agree. Reluctantly. Legolas - 04/01/2012 06:19:13 PM 1141 Views
Actually, your response was expected Larry - 04/01/2012 10:08:33 PM 1258 Views
don't forget.... moondog - 05/01/2012 02:27:49 AM 1115 Views
do you still pretend that it isn't political? random thoughts - 05/01/2012 03:14:25 PM 1039 Views
I'm sorry Larry - 05/01/2012 03:52:57 PM 1185 Views
funny how it always woks out that way random thoughts - 05/01/2012 06:44:55 PM 972 Views
Believe what you will, but my wok skills are poor Larry - 05/01/2012 07:32:17 PM 1142 Views
You should ask one of the gays to help you. I hear the gays are good at cooking. *NM* Ghavrel - 06/01/2012 01:54:21 AM 712 Views
Queer stove eye for the straight guy? Larry - 06/01/2012 09:05:48 PM 1049 Views
try using more heat and better oil *NM* random thoughts - 06/01/2012 06:18:19 PM 589 Views
Corn oil? Larry - 06/01/2012 09:05:09 PM 984 Views
Peanut *NM* random thoughts - 06/01/2012 11:27:49 PM 648 Views
Santorum is a man who believes you must compare homosexual love to bestiality and pedophilia Roland00 - 05/01/2012 04:42:26 AM 1146 Views
and Savage is a Man who believes that vulgar personal attacks random thoughts - 05/01/2012 03:12:42 PM 1283 Views
Why should a person tolerate intolerance? (Serious question.) *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 05/01/2012 08:46:05 PM 808 Views
The question boils down to why should someone tolerate what they think is wrong. Narg - 05/01/2012 10:53:40 PM 1112 Views
and when santorum tells you that your lifestyle is worse than pedophilia and bestiality? moondog - 06/01/2012 03:34:52 AM 1050 Views
To be fair... Narg - 06/01/2012 05:32:31 AM 1198 Views
You are correct Roland00 - 06/01/2012 01:21:18 PM 1234 Views
Then it seems like it's a problem of definitions more than anything else. Vivien - 06/01/2012 09:48:49 PM 1178 Views
Following the logic to its bitter end. Why do I do this to myself??? Vivien - 06/01/2012 10:14:01 PM 1211 Views
Santourm is Roland00 - 07/01/2012 04:24:45 AM 1178 Views
I'm fairly sure your theory is wrong. Legolas - 06/01/2012 10:42:14 PM 1279 Views
so Obama offended me by attending a racist America hating church random thoughts - 06/01/2012 05:32:14 PM 1093 Views
Those are really not equivalent. Vivien - 06/01/2012 04:18:37 PM 1001 Views
Re: Those are really not equivalent. Narg - 06/01/2012 10:27:11 PM 1169 Views
I don't like your definition of tolerance and you're not consistent with it anyway. Vivien - 07/01/2012 01:49:05 AM 1184 Views
In case you were curious, I really disagree with your understanding of tolerance. *NM* Vivien - 09/01/2012 08:24:45 PM 734 Views
But being the tolerant person that you are... Narg - 09/01/2012 09:01:10 PM 1093 Views
This. Joel - 07/01/2012 01:35:43 PM 1039 Views
I agree, lets shoot anyone who doesn't think like you *NM* random thoughts - 06/01/2012 05:17:41 PM 600 Views
I'm really conflicted about the whole Santorum thing. Vivien - 06/01/2012 07:42:02 PM 1095 Views
I find myself agreeing with you recently random thoughts - 06/01/2012 08:38:37 PM 1132 Views
dude, gross! *NM* temeraire - 04/01/2012 04:39:34 PM 611 Views
Dear Iowa, Wulf`gar - 04/01/2012 08:04:09 PM 1162 Views
So at this point, most of the candidates had a moment at the top. Kind of awesome. Vivien - 05/01/2012 11:22:50 PM 1126 Views
that is why Perry is staying in the race random thoughts - 06/01/2012 06:20:54 PM 1093 Views
He should stay, they should all stay. Trump should get back into it and Palin should jump in too. Vivien - 06/01/2012 07:00:52 PM 1014 Views
It would be the joke of the year if Huntsman got a turn. Legolas - 06/01/2012 10:59:36 PM 1040 Views
Is he a bigger long shot than Santorum, though? Gingrich? Bachman? CAIN!? Vivien - 07/01/2012 01:34:47 AM 1161 Views
Yes, for the reason you state. Joel - 07/01/2012 03:04:39 PM 1121 Views
I really do not agree. Vivien - 09/01/2012 08:51:46 PM 1156 Views
Like I said, check Obamas numbers any time in the last year and a half. Joel - 10/01/2012 11:41:47 AM 1015 Views
he is moving up in New Hampshire random thoughts - 10/01/2012 05:16:14 PM 1238 Views
More like everyone has had a moment running second to Romney. Joel - 07/01/2012 01:59:25 PM 1060 Views
It's not a foregone conclusion yet. ranagrande - 07/01/2012 04:03:51 PM 1160 Views
It kinda is; Paul cannot even win a majority of Republicans, let alone the country. Joel - 07/01/2012 09:09:07 PM 1129 Views
Ironically, Paul has a better chance of winning the general election than the republican primary. ranagrande - 07/01/2012 10:14:07 PM 1198 Views
What's the likelihood of Paul running as an independent/3rd party if he doesn't get the GOP nod? *NM* Stephen - 07/01/2012 10:21:23 PM 428 Views
Not very high, I think. He didn't try it last time either, and it would hand Obama the election. *NM* Legolas - 08/01/2012 01:29:01 AM 576 Views
He will threaten to do it, but not actually do it Roland00 - 08/01/2012 04:14:55 AM 1221 Views
many states have laws that you cannot run 3rd party after being on the ballot for a party primary moondog - 08/01/2012 06:12:36 AM 1237 Views
0 *NM* random thoughts - 09/01/2012 02:57:50 PM 548 Views
Yes, he and Romney have that in common, but Pauls positions are (mostly) sincere. Joel - 10/01/2012 03:46:04 PM 1244 Views
give up the hope it is nothing more than a pipe dream random thoughts - 09/01/2012 02:57:03 PM 1140 Views
All of the republican candidates are pipe dreams. ranagrande - 09/01/2012 08:56:57 PM 945 Views
I find Ron Paul absolutely infuriating. Vivien - 09/01/2012 10:44:09 PM 1248 Views
Weed is kinda important Roland00 - 10/01/2012 03:31:00 PM 1016 Views
So is women's health. About 50% of US. *NM* Vivien - 13/01/2012 01:46:15 AM 652 Views
Um... Joel - 10/01/2012 03:54:53 PM 1063 Views
is an ass Roland00 - 10/01/2012 05:10:09 PM 1177 Views
I would like to see that enforced. Joel - 10/01/2012 05:39:22 PM 1541 Views
So segregation when done by private businesses is ok? Vivien - 11/01/2012 02:20:32 PM 1260 Views
Define "OK." Joel - 11/01/2012 08:29:09 PM 1110 Views
Paul is an equal opportunity infuriator, to borrow Vivien's word. Legolas - 09/01/2012 10:56:57 PM 1088 Views
I agree with you completely. nossy - 10/01/2012 12:06:19 PM 1136 Views
while I, of course, disagree with your conclusion. ranagrande - 10/01/2012 02:21:46 PM 1593 Views
Re: while I, of course, disagree with your conclusion. Legolas - 10/01/2012 07:38:39 PM 1170 Views
Ron Paul's biggest problem is isn't a republican random thoughts - 10/01/2012 04:18:16 PM 1158 Views
The original santorum 2003 interview for those who want to know Roland00 - 07/01/2012 05:32:00 AM 1339 Views
And here is the 2002 op ed where he blamed liberalism causing the Catholic Church sex abuse scandal Roland00 - 07/01/2012 05:36:39 AM 1175 Views
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