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Also I don't like this refrain that implies only the POTUS vote matters Isaac Send a noteboard - 03/03/2012 03:29:58 AM
Another reason I'm not terribly fond of increasing the youth vote, everybody gets to vote for their senators, congressman, and Gov, most of us get to vote for... I believe I worked out I have 67 positions of various 2,4, and 6 year terms to vote for, plus various levies. Honestly, I don't really want anyone voting for anything if they can't name at least half of those positions and I really don't want to encourage people to vote in droves every four years only to do straight-party ticket without looking at the names or consistently pick Johnny Uniteus over Afold Heitlar even though Afold is dedicated and competent man and Johnny's godfather is well known to all by that sobriquet. I used to be a big fan of getting out the vote, though I've never approved of Popular for POTUS, but these days given a choice I wouldn't even have any other elections simultaneous to Pres. I'm not denying that a popular vote is more fair in the 'one man, one vote, equal say' philosophy, I just don't subscribe to that philosophy. It's not like the US is unique in not having direct elections for the main leader, most of the modern democracies have the legislature vote the leader... that's not terribly different then EC.
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Now That Romney Is Officially the Republican Presidential Nominee: Pick the President! - 29/02/2012 08:29:02 PM 1853 Views
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a bit simplistic and unrealistic - 02/03/2012 11:44:02 PM 967 Views
When illustrating a point realism is not required and simplicity is a plus - 03/03/2012 03:04:26 AM 1017 Views
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I hate when people do that. - 05/03/2012 09:49:36 AM 988 Views
What a bunch of waffle! - 03/03/2012 10:47:19 AM 1112 Views
First you complain of simplicity then of my lack of brevity? - 03/03/2012 11:18:11 AM 876 Views
A simplistic argument doesn't mean it's brief *NM* - 03/03/2012 09:55:51 PM 468 Views
Also I don't like this refrain that implies only the POTUS vote matters - 03/03/2012 03:29:58 AM 1128 Views
IMHO, parliaments choosing prime ministers is LESS democratic than the electoral college. - 03/03/2012 05:57:41 AM 931 Views
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*is learning* - 04/03/2012 09:49:42 PM 934 Views
Re: *is learning* - 04/03/2012 09:56:16 PM 977 Views
To the extent I can (yet again) claim to speak for Europeans... - 04/03/2012 10:33:01 PM 929 Views
I've fairly limited exposure and that from some years back - 04/03/2012 11:35:12 PM 1042 Views
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You could imitate the French. - 07/03/2012 10:40:16 PM 931 Views
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Do you happen to have that link, please? - 03/03/2012 06:46:31 PM 861 Views
Sure. - 03/03/2012 06:58:07 PM 1086 Views
Guess we did not read far enough. - 03/03/2012 10:38:07 PM 986 Views
Yeah, you have to know a few things about European politics... - 03/03/2012 11:49:44 PM 1180 Views
Hey, man, I am an AMERICAN: I do not HAVE to know ANYTHING! - 04/03/2012 11:46:57 PM 1188 Views
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Re: Yeah, you have to know a few things about European politics... - 08/03/2012 07:11:12 PM 932 Views
Many valid reasons, including those Isaac cited. - 02/03/2012 02:26:37 AM 1090 Views
Most states are ignored anyway - 02/03/2012 11:56:12 PM 1156 Views
Why would we do something logical? Dude, you're utterly ridiculous. *NM* - 05/03/2012 04:53:38 PM 495 Views
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You should put that on your license plates. - 03/03/2012 06:41:34 AM 1048 Views
Re: You should put that on your license plates. - 03/03/2012 06:51:00 AM 973 Views
Ax murderers are people, too! - 04/03/2012 08:23:41 PM 917 Views
And what are you basing all of this on? - 03/03/2012 09:54:06 PM 982 Views
The closeness of several states when Obama was far more popular, and UTs heavily Mormon neighbors. - 03/03/2012 11:44:06 PM 981 Views
Wrong - 04/03/2012 08:08:56 AM 1067 Views
Higher turnout magnifies the Mormon effect. - 04/03/2012 08:08:09 PM 1133 Views
Your reasoning is flawed and if you can't see it there is no hope for you - 05/03/2012 11:39:04 PM 1060 Views
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Do you have any knowledge of statistics at all? - 07/03/2012 09:04:15 PM 1035 Views
I hate this message board - 07/03/2012 09:06:30 PM 830 Views
Some, though it is far from exhaustive. - 08/03/2012 02:29:06 PM 1077 Views

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