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What's happening nossy Send a noteboard - 05/03/2012 02:24:41 PM
Is that you're taking his comment too far. I might be wrong, but it seems that Tim (and people like him) are saying that, first and foremost, they do not believe there is a God of any sort (atheism). Conversationally conceding that one can't know everything is NOT agnosticism - it's much closer to me as a Christian saying that I believe A, but I'm willing to review and potentially accept B if reasonable enough new information should ever appear. Would you try to claim that means I am not currently a Christian? We think we're right, but you know we cannot know that we're 100% correct any more than an Atheist can.

You're describing a situation in which (to qualify as Atheist) any person MUST state that any/all new information is irrelevant - that God does not exist, no matter what. How many real people are willing to be so smug in their statements? Since you seem to know so many more interesting people than I do, I'm sure you'll know some who perfectly fit that description, but as I've tried to point out previously, you have to leave room in definitions for real people. I think the burden is on you to call your definition something more like "fringe, fundamentalist atheism."
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Question - 29/02/2012 07:58:32 PM 1107 Views
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one thing - 29/02/2012 06:25:45 PM 1137 Views
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Bad example - 05/03/2012 05:06:21 AM 1216 Views
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On the other hand ... - 28/02/2012 09:28:27 PM 944 Views
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What's happening - 05/03/2012 02:24:41 PM 1193 Views
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*NM* - 12/03/2012 01:14:39 AM 539 Views
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I snerfled. *NM* - 29/02/2012 05:12:32 PM 522 Views
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