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If the divine made men... Urza Send a noteboard - 10/03/2012 06:27:42 AM
Then he crafted our nature and in embracing it, all of it, we exalt him.

If the divine did not make men then we have only our nature and ought find joy in embracing it. All of it.
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Atheism: The Iconoclasm of the West? Joel - 10/03/2012 05:42:56 AM 1635 Views
I think about as highly of athiesm as I do of christianity. *NM* Urza - 10/03/2012 05:54:20 AM 519 Views
I would chide you on that basis for having a love/hate relationship with God, but who does not? Joel - 10/03/2012 06:05:11 AM 869 Views
If the divine made men... Urza - 10/03/2012 06:27:42 AM 875 Views
True, but by the same token, in denying our nature we deny the divine. Joel - 10/03/2012 06:57:40 AM 858 Views
I was actually just saying in Skype this is the first post you've made in a long time I've enjoyed. Urza - 10/03/2012 07:02:56 AM 891 Views
Thanks? It is all Dans fault, really. Joel - 10/03/2012 07:21:19 AM 1148 Views
But you do comparable things all the time! jh - 10/03/2012 08:35:31 AM 1080 Views
You've made this analogy before and it's still a bad one, those aren't comparable Isaac - 10/03/2012 03:43:08 PM 986 Views
You said what I was thinking far more respectfully than I probably would have. Joel - 11/03/2012 12:14:55 AM 927 Views
... and apparently it was a waste of time Isaac - 11/03/2012 03:27:04 AM 866 Views
Perhaps he just missed it in all my spam? Joel - 11/03/2012 04:59:31 AM 906 Views
Basically what Isaac said. *NM* Urza - 10/03/2012 07:22:07 PM 455 Views
who? *NM* jh - 11/03/2012 12:00:13 AM 443 Views
Me Caasi - 11/03/2012 03:31:51 AM 915 Views
You're right and wrong. Dan - 10/03/2012 05:09:32 PM 1375 Views
Re: You're right and wrong. Joel - 11/03/2012 12:28:25 AM 1234 Views
Nope, Buddhists are explicitly atheist and also explicitly Ontologically engaged Dan - 11/03/2012 01:39:20 AM 1210 Views
Actually, Buddhists are not explicitly atheist in the conventional sense of the world. Tom - 11/03/2012 02:42:36 AM 1050 Views
Yeah, that's very true. Dan - 11/03/2012 03:27:09 PM 1123 Views
My Buddhist readings are definitely Tibet-focused. Tom - 11/03/2012 04:00:17 PM 1197 Views
Duplicate post *NM* Dan - 11/03/2012 03:28:58 PM 556 Views
I guess it is that old impersonalism that seems the great disappointment in most Eastern religions. Joel - 11/03/2012 04:48:54 AM 1128 Views
What you talkin' 'bout, Willis? *NM* nossy - 10/03/2012 06:29:35 PM 452 Views
I think he's saying that most arguments used on behalf of Atheism actually come from the Bible. Dan - 10/03/2012 06:58:50 PM 993 Views
Pretty much, though I fudged iconoclasms precise definition. Joel - 11/03/2012 12:43:29 AM 931 Views
Basically what Dan said; atheism as iconoclasm sans icons (unless we count religion as symbolism.) Joel - 11/03/2012 12:46:52 AM 980 Views
What exactly do you mean by "The irreparable damage it inflicted in the Great Schism"? Tom - 10/03/2012 07:57:59 PM 1026 Views
That Byzantiums iconoclasm was one of the many wedges between it and Rome that led to the Schism. Joel - 11/03/2012 12:27:05 AM 954 Views
Bull. Shit. Tom - 11/03/2012 01:54:07 AM 1067 Views
I did not say it was decisive, but that it did irreparable damage to the relationship. Joel - 11/03/2012 04:23:43 AM 1084 Views
Bull. Shit. Tom - 11/03/2012 04:30:08 AM 936 Views
It is not like I just pulled it out of my rear, any more than my HS history text or Wikipedia did. Joel - 11/03/2012 04:57:31 AM 989 Views
Bull. Shit. Tom - 11/03/2012 05:14:01 AM 1064 Views
Irreparable damage is damage that cannot be repaired, not necessarily serious or fatal. Joel - 11/03/2012 10:34:57 AM 1118 Views
Mierda.del.Toro Larry - 11/03/2012 12:36:59 PM 1041 Views
1969 may be "sometime back" in Roman Catholic history,but is ~a millenium after the time in question Joel - 12/03/2012 05:47:11 PM 1386 Views
You really must get steamed by anyone calling you out on your hyberbolic comments Larry - 12/03/2012 06:55:06 PM 1150 Views
On the contrary, I am not the one screaming "bullshit" in as many languages as possible. Joel - 13/03/2012 12:07:54 AM 1228 Views
No, you're just the one spewing the bullshit. *NM* Tom - 13/03/2012 12:37:15 AM 404 Views
ο κοπρος. του ταυρου. Tom - 11/03/2012 02:19:11 PM 1111 Views
Very edifying; can you do Mandarin or Swahili next? Joel - 12/03/2012 05:47:23 PM 1015 Views
No. Even English seems to be beyond your grasp. Tom - 12/03/2012 06:29:50 PM 918 Views
Citing scripture does not justify telling me to kill myself. Joel - 13/03/2012 12:08:02 AM 1072 Views
I'm not telling you to; God is. Tom - 13/03/2012 12:35:45 AM 818 Views
Or can only you use that sort of specious logic? *NM* Tom - 13/03/2012 03:50:20 PM 415 Views
And re: particular bullshit Tom - 11/03/2012 02:33:15 PM 1045 Views
Re: And re: particular bullshit Joel - 13/03/2012 12:07:42 AM 942 Views
Give it up already. You are wrong. everynametaken - 12/03/2012 12:53:37 AM 1215 Views
I will do the former at least; pretty sure this "discussion" has reached rock bottom. Joel - 13/03/2012 12:12:46 AM 902 Views
More or less your last line Cannoli - 11/03/2012 01:37:42 AM 940 Views
That is a broader argument, but more consistent with iconoclasms established meaning. Joel - 11/03/2012 05:12:12 AM 1101 Views
Would you include the iconoclasm that Joel cites in the canonical Judeo-Christian tradition as well? Dan - 11/03/2012 12:44:49 PM 954 Views
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