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I did not say it was decisive, but that it did irreparable damage to the relationship. Joel Send a noteboard - 11/03/2012 04:23:43 AM
In my original post, I further stated Romes practice of accomodating European paganism by merging its divinities with saints made icon veneration critical to its mission (sometimes as much a survival as an ecclesiastical matter,) and that the greater rarity of polytheism in Byzantium could only make that another bone of contention. That is mainly conjecture on my part though, not documented fact.

The point, however, was that two centuries before the Great Schisms formal declaration, as all contributing factors made it de facto reality, Byzantine emperors spent a half century declaring an accepted and celebrated Roman practice heresy, if not idolatry. How could that not further strain an already tortured relationship? My HS world history textbook taught us it did, but you can always write them a correction after editing the below link.
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who? *NM* - 11/03/2012 12:00:13 AM 383 Views
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You're right and wrong. - 10/03/2012 05:09:32 PM 1214 Views
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Duplicate post *NM* - 11/03/2012 03:28:58 PM 480 Views
What exactly do you mean by "The irreparable damage it inflicted in the Great Schism"? - 10/03/2012 07:57:59 PM 925 Views
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Bull. Shit. - 11/03/2012 01:54:07 AM 949 Views
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It is not like I just pulled it out of my rear, any more than my HS history text or Wikipedia did. - 11/03/2012 04:57:31 AM 887 Views
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ο κοπρος. του ταυρου. - 11/03/2012 02:19:11 PM 1005 Views
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Or can only you use that sort of specious logic? *NM* - 13/03/2012 03:50:20 PM 356 Views
And re: particular bullshit - 11/03/2012 02:33:15 PM 918 Views
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