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The question, as for Tom, is what you believe Romney would improve for small businesses. Joel Send a noteboard - 14/08/2012 01:38:29 PM
No thanks.

Not as if anything could make me ever vote Rep if I was American, but it's nice of them to regularly remind me why that thought is such a Nono.

But it isn't very mature of me to make my decision based only on those criteria. The economy is a bit more worrying right now, at least to me. Tom made some good points above, re: Obama's lack of experience in the private sector. I work for a very small business, and it seems that Obama tries to speak about being supportive of us, w/o actually knowing what to do to show that.

I don't know. Everything about me wants to make the decision against the religious right type of conservatism, but I am really asking myself if that is such a big deal - I don't think Romney actually believes he should strip back those rights (women's primarily), but I also know I'm taking a hell of a big gamble to assume he's feigning interest there just to get the conservative vote. This whole election period is driving me out of my mind. I want to knock some heads together.

His business experience contains nothing suggesting he would help you or any small business unless you consider buying you out, firing all your employees and declaring you bankrupt "help." You might get some regularity relief, but otherwise I would expect even most tax credits to go to big, not small, business, because they usually do under Republicans. Even regulatory relief is dubious; the previous governor of my state sent its environmental agency after a local catfish farmer because of fecal river runoff (no fish had ever crapped in a river before ;)) while fighting EPA efforts to clean up petrogiant dumping in Houston.

Consider your relationship with Big Business and the GOPs, then tell me how much Republicans will help you. It is now a fundamentally anti-government party, especially at the federal level, and thus hostile to government helping anyone, or doing anything else. Unfortunately, laissez-faire economics is no better for small business than for consumers or labor: It solely benefits Big Business, which can use market forces and economy of scale to bludgeon small local competitors into oblivion. Exhibit A is Wal$Mart; I do not know if their large garden departments do landscaping but, for your sake, I hope not.

As for the religious right, if Romney does not really want to defund Planned Parenthood and the other things he has publicly stated, that only makes him dishonest, a poor argument for trusting him. None but God know what Romney genuinely believes on those and virtually every other issue; most days, even he is uncertain.
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Paul Ryan is selected as Republican VP candidate - 11/08/2012 05:01:47 PM 2045 Views
Personally? No, I'm not voting Republican at all this year. - 11/08/2012 05:18:06 PM 1023 Views
Ya know that narrative of the right getting further right is pretty ridicolous - 11/08/2012 06:43:44 PM 992 Views
it could possibly be the "all or nothing" budget fights and gay marriage among other things - 11/08/2012 08:19:11 PM 1032 Views
Yeah, I forgot the Dems are very enlightened about gay marriage now for what? 2 Months? - 11/08/2012 08:59:17 PM 1098 Views
+1 - Great post! *NM* - 12/08/2012 04:32:21 AM 601 Views
We're on a roll here Isaac. I agree with you again. - 12/08/2012 08:18:32 AM 1031 Views
yet despite that, dems didn't put referenda and push bills discriminating against gay people - 12/08/2012 07:55:38 PM 1105 Views
They certainly have, they've just done it less and less recently - 12/08/2012 09:39:53 PM 985 Views
Fred Phelps is 82 - 13/08/2012 01:28:01 AM 925 Views
So is Pat Robertson *NM* - 13/08/2012 02:41:28 AM 579 Views
They're not enlightened at all. - 21/08/2012 02:04:09 PM 1187 Views
Agreed, but ya'll continue doing it anyway. - 11/08/2012 08:24:09 PM 1014 Views
Thank you for making sense. - 12/08/2012 08:01:53 AM 988 Views
voting third party is a good idea - 11/08/2012 08:15:41 PM 989 Views
I'm sorry, but anyone that votes for Obama after the past 3 and 1/2 years is a moron..... - 12/08/2012 03:30:47 AM 953 Views
If you are proud of not voting, please shut up: The adults have a country to run. - 12/08/2012 04:11:49 AM 956 Views
Candidates have to earn my vote - I'm not a slave like you to the 2 party system. - 12/08/2012 04:24:02 AM 1121 Views
Who said anything about the two-party system? - 12/08/2012 04:29:36 AM 919 Views
No offense intended, but voting third party is as stupid as not voting. - 12/08/2012 04:42:28 AM 1172 Views
I strongly disagree. - 12/08/2012 05:11:52 AM 1035 Views
as the saying goes "the lesser of two evils is still evil" - 12/08/2012 08:06:20 PM 1012 Views
Nice asshatery. - 12/08/2012 07:56:57 AM 1170 Views
Wouldn't you love to have a "none of the above" option..... - 12/08/2012 03:36:54 PM 937 Views
Or you could use a PR system and act like responsible adults. *NM* - 12/08/2012 05:47:14 PM 480 Views
Oh dear. - 11/08/2012 06:26:07 PM 982 Views
I'm happy with it, I like Ryan - 11/08/2012 06:47:21 PM 998 Views
What a shock. - 11/08/2012 08:18:35 PM 1131 Views
Re: What a shock. - 11/08/2012 08:51:12 PM 1100 Views
ryan isn't going to help rmoney win wisconsin - 11/08/2012 08:21:27 PM 1116 Views
Picking Ryan was an olive branch to the GOP rank and file. - 11/08/2012 08:05:41 PM 1238 Views
definitely a bold pick but not going to help him enough in november - 11/08/2012 08:27:59 PM 1047 Views
Who cares? He's hot. - 11/08/2012 11:53:42 PM 1201 Views
So are you a fan of David Cameron? - 12/08/2012 12:12:50 AM 853 Views
Lol. Nice one. *NM* - 12/08/2012 08:22:01 AM 524 Views
I actually said, "He's not hot enough." - 13/08/2012 01:15:58 PM 926 Views
- 13/08/2012 03:31:38 PM 1058 Views
Wonderful choice! Truly wonderful.....check the video. - 12/08/2012 03:22:48 AM 927 Views
Nice video. - 12/08/2012 06:52:59 PM 1026 Views
Can you explain your fascination with Ryans ideas, please? - 13/08/2012 04:08:35 AM 992 Views
No, it doesn't change my opinion any - 12/08/2012 07:50:21 AM 1100 Views
I hear even the DNC has rejected its TN Senate nominee. - 12/08/2012 05:46:37 PM 1011 Views
Yes, they disavowed him - 12/08/2012 08:00:33 PM 1029 Views
Does not work in the US - 13/08/2012 01:17:58 AM 968 Views
We do not need most of the populace to cast protest votes, only most voters. - 13/08/2012 01:33:41 AM 929 Views
Your distinction misses my greater point - 13/08/2012 01:51:26 AM 975 Views
*shrugs* Vote absentee then. - 13/08/2012 02:28:32 AM 1009 Views
I was going to vote Romney anyway, so no, it doesn't change anything. - 12/08/2012 10:39:15 PM 999 Views
But I'm guessing you're glad with Ryan? Prefer him over the alternatives? Or not? - 12/08/2012 10:49:35 PM 1144 Views
I disagree - 13/08/2012 12:52:07 AM 1019 Views
Bloomberg has imploded - 13/08/2012 07:12:56 PM 926 Views
Bloomberg has become a national laughingstock. - 13/08/2012 08:13:24 PM 1013 Views
Not as much as either Obama or Romney, surely. - 13/08/2012 08:23:41 PM 1012 Views
Makes sense for you. You are Romney's target audience. - 13/08/2012 01:19:26 PM 943 Views
What should Obama have done? - 13/08/2012 07:31:23 PM 995 Views
And how much of that do you expect from Romney? - 14/08/2012 10:21:33 AM 1317 Views
Certainly more than from Obama. - 16/08/2012 12:00:19 AM 920 Views
Mmm, Objectivism. Another reason for me to vote Obama. - 12/08/2012 11:00:34 PM 1102 Views
But doesn't he say he detests Rand? - 12/08/2012 11:53:47 PM 838 Views
No he doesn't disavow Ayn Rand, he still believes in her - 13/08/2012 01:15:34 AM 1019 Views
Good to know. - 13/08/2012 08:42:22 AM 1024 Views
Link to audio of Paul Ryans address to The Atlas Society. - 13/08/2012 03:37:27 AM 1142 Views
Or you could have just read my response which posted prior to yours - 13/08/2012 01:45:07 PM 938 Views
Sorry, I completely missed your link. - 13/08/2012 03:09:11 PM 1035 Views
Don't get me wrong - 13/08/2012 12:53:10 AM 959 Views
Actually I believe he promised to vote for Romney if I did - 13/08/2012 03:48:35 AM 1105 Views
What an amusing retrospective. - 13/08/2012 04:20:02 AM 1103 Views
Uh... how exactly did you get to spending and budget timelines? - 13/08/2012 04:59:45 AM 939 Views
Tangentially, of course. - 13/08/2012 05:08:18 AM 967 Views
I tried reading it again, but my eyes glazed over when you started babbling about lesbian covens. - 14/08/2012 12:30:03 AM 880 Views
It was a hyperbolic reference to the extreme left (one stolen from Matt Groening, btw.) - 14/08/2012 10:12:09 AM 952 Views
Interesting. - 14/08/2012 11:34:30 AM 1039 Views
They have a pill for that now. - 14/08/2012 01:14:39 PM 1077 Views
I'm pretty sure the solution is you learning elementary composition. *NM* - 15/08/2012 11:33:57 PM 606 Views
Your willful reading incomprehension is neither my fault nor problem. - 16/08/2012 07:40:46 PM 1040 Views
I don't think you can succinctly do anything. *NM* - 16/08/2012 09:33:38 PM 615 Views
I just did. - 16/08/2012 09:36:21 PM 998 Views
EDIT: ACK! Hoist on my own petard! - 14/08/2012 12:25:27 AM 948 Views
No birth control, no right to choose, no planned parenthood? - 13/08/2012 01:58:51 PM 878 Views
They are really doing a public service that way. *NM* - 13/08/2012 02:26:39 PM 449 Views
I agree with your statements - 14/08/2012 12:53:41 AM 1094 Views
It's mostly nonsense - 14/08/2012 04:46:11 AM 1023 Views
Well - 14/08/2012 02:54:06 PM 1225 Views
'Nonsense' refers to the thing said about the religious right by the media - 14/08/2012 04:01:47 PM 1241 Views
I'm wondering if "belittles" is the wrong word. - 14/08/2012 06:30:23 PM 1279 Views
Re: I'm wondering if "belittles" is the wrong word. - 15/08/2012 01:45:59 AM 972 Views
I have to keep this short, because I am on the iPad. - 15/08/2012 05:38:48 AM 933 Views
Triple reply chain is usually a good point for the trim-edit anyway - 15/08/2012 05:27:20 PM 1109 Views
Or shows it's time to quit. - 15/08/2012 10:20:17 PM 1418 Views
Agreed - 15/08/2012 10:54:05 PM 887 Views
The question, as for Tom, is what you believe Romney would improve for small businesses. - 14/08/2012 01:38:29 PM 1055 Views
I am aware of that, thank you. And I don't distill my choice down to small business, either. - 14/08/2012 02:24:24 PM 1098 Views
I see your point, but... - 14/08/2012 02:30:22 PM 873 Views
Well - 14/08/2012 03:09:18 PM 1061 Views
Are you really going to let Obama con you into voting for him again? - 21/08/2012 02:00:06 PM 907 Views
I honestly haven't decided. - 21/08/2012 04:13:44 PM 1229 Views
None of that is that important. - 14/08/2012 08:53:10 PM 1047 Views
Agreed. *NM* - 15/08/2012 02:21:55 PM 577 Views
Bullshit - 21/08/2012 01:46:42 PM 1067 Views
This makes me more likely to vote R this year. - 15/08/2012 02:31:06 PM 957 Views

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