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He is an absolute berk. *NM* Stephen Send a noteboard - 23/08/2012 01:08:58 AM
So.

George Galloway, British left wing politician and general arse -

The Respect MP then suggested one of the women had claimed she invited Mr Assange back to her flat, had consensual sex with him and then "woke up to him having sex with her again - something which can happen, you know".

"Some people believe that when you go to bed with somebody, take off your clothes, and have sex with them and then fall asleep, you're already in the sex game with them," he continued.

"It might be really bad manners not to have tapped her on the shoulder and said, 'do you mind if I do it again?'

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"It might be really sordid and bad sexual etiquette, but whatever else it is, it is not rape or you bankrupt the term rape of all meaning."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/9490122/George-Galloway-Julian-Assange-rape-allegations-nothing-but-bad-sexual-etiquette.html

Is there a point at which consent is assumed to have elapsed then, or does the woman (or man) have to formerly state it?

Todd Atkin, American right wing politician -

"Well you know, people always want to try to make that as one of those things, well how do you, how do you slice this particularly tough sort of ethical question. First of all, from what I understand from doctors, that’s really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. But let’s assume that maybe that didn’t work or something. I think there should be some punishment, but the punishment ought to be on the rapist and not attacking the child"

http://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddisalvo/2012/08/19/republican-senate-nominee-todd-akin-victims-of-legitimate-rape-dont-get-pregnant/

(some context on Atkin's use of "legitimate rape" might be that previously he only supported abortion in the case of "forcible rape", in a bill co-authored with Ryan)

Hard to know which one is stupider... though the bright side for Galloway is that it might be better to be remembered as the guy who made the stupid comment about rape rather than the one who sucked up to Saddam. Maybe.
"I mean, if everyone had a soul, there would be no contrast by which we could appreciate it. For giving us this perspective, we thank you." - Nate
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Galloway - I'll always remember him for being a Cat to be honest. - 22/08/2012 11:14:58 PM 529 Views
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Bullshit - 23/08/2012 05:01:24 AM 422 Views
That's an interesting variation with some legitimacy, though not compelling, to me anyway - 23/08/2012 07:25:50 AM 439 Views
That is a dangerous line of logic. - 23/08/2012 09:26:25 PM 654 Views
Okay, that really wasn't connected to my comments - 24/08/2012 02:39:21 AM 371 Views
Sure it was, but we can do it your way. - 24/08/2012 04:10:37 AM 439 Views
Yet you don't, you jump the gun here too - 24/08/2012 04:37:02 AM 446 Views
I was trying to cut to the chase; like I say, I followed your logic: I just disliked where it led. - 24/08/2012 06:10:40 AM 540 Views
Disliking the conclusion doesn't invalidate the logic, and stop veering out of the debate boundary - 24/08/2012 06:43:43 AM 476 Views
No, the logics invalidity does that, though you do not seem to like its conclusion either. - 24/08/2012 07:48:21 AM 646 Views
I'm not even sure what that means - 25/08/2012 12:38:56 AM 378 Views
The logic is invalid because invalid, however either of us feels about where it leads. - 25/08/2012 10:37:34 PM 438 Views
Okay, we're done here - 26/08/2012 05:36:28 AM 409 Views
Quotes are not my opinion. - 26/08/2012 06:37:19 AM 391 Views
You'd really benefit from post-secondary education. - 26/08/2012 12:14:02 PM 476 Views
Haven't you and Joel had about the same amount of post-secondary education, actually? - 27/08/2012 01:31:43 AM 492 Views
T^T - 27/08/2012 04:39:33 AM 396 Views
Is that the emoticon for perky titties? *NM* - 27/08/2012 11:07:06 PM 213 Views
He is an absolute berk. *NM* - 23/08/2012 01:08:58 AM 417 Views
To be honest, I think people MIGHT be overreacting to both comments. - 23/08/2012 01:33:54 AM 504 Views
Really? *NM* - 23/08/2012 06:33:46 AM 288 Views
Yeah. - 23/08/2012 06:40:05 AM 444 Views
I expect it is more of a "stating the obvious" response. - 23/08/2012 02:01:18 PM 419 Views
Heh, I didn't think so. - 23/08/2012 05:44:55 PM 462 Views
I said Akins comments needed MORE context. - 23/08/2012 08:50:09 PM 562 Views
Yes, I saw that. - 23/08/2012 10:28:50 PM 395 Views
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No argument there. - 23/08/2012 11:46:01 PM 449 Views
This - 23/08/2012 08:50:43 PM 465 Views
Okay. I misunderstood. Sorry. *NM* - 23/08/2012 09:58:20 PM 258 Views
Eh - 23/08/2012 10:37:15 PM 413 Views
Well, I didn't take it that way. - 23/08/2012 10:42:01 PM 475 Views
Good - 24/08/2012 02:20:27 AM 480 Views
Ah, I can understand if that is the case. - 23/08/2012 07:46:38 PM 450 Views
I read it the same way Jen did - 23/08/2012 08:49:16 PM 378 Views
Why? - 23/08/2012 08:51:59 PM 455 Views
See your reply here - the bit before the comma then the bit after it. - 23/08/2012 09:06:20 PM 449 Views
You can see where there's room for doubt in that though, surely. - 23/08/2012 09:20:19 PM 423 Views
I accept there are exceptions under some circumstances - but they are exceptions, not the rule. - 23/08/2012 09:44:36 PM 438 Views
Well, I have to clarify... - 23/08/2012 10:28:13 PM 408 Views
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couple things - 24/08/2012 01:57:04 AM 382 Views
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You may be talking about Galloway and not Assange, but Galloway was talking about Assange. - 24/08/2012 06:28:00 PM 396 Views
Ew. - 24/08/2012 06:56:27 PM 419 Views
Yes, that about covers it. - 24/08/2012 07:42:13 PM 401 Views
Yes, I was talking about Galoway and what he said - 25/08/2012 12:15:15 AM 540 Views
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I can - 23/08/2012 11:05:05 PM 352 Views
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OK - 23/08/2012 09:35:35 PM 400 Views
Bullshit. - 23/08/2012 10:00:54 PM 368 Views
Re: Bullshit. - 23/08/2012 10:52:02 PM 559 Views
To start again then Joel - 23/08/2012 11:14:07 PM 382 Views
My mistake then, sorry. - 23/08/2012 11:32:34 PM 410 Views
Agreeing without agreeing. - 23/08/2012 12:24:10 PM 479 Views
I have gotten used to you being right for the wrong reasons. - 23/08/2012 07:42:32 PM 396 Views
Yes - 23/08/2012 06:34:38 AM 546 Views
Indeed - 23/08/2012 08:47:40 PM 381 Views
I don't know about Galloway but Akin is being made to pay for his commnets - 23/08/2012 04:37:12 PM 474 Views
Um, I'm not sure about that last bit - 23/08/2012 10:43:15 PM 388 Views
this issue has been discussed none stop for two days and this almost never mentioned - 24/08/2012 12:28:25 PM 397 Views
well, that is where I'm confused. - 24/08/2012 07:03:16 PM 391 Views
Maybe I watch to much CNN - 24/08/2012 07:30:23 PM 369 Views
Yeah, I'm curious about that last point as well. - 24/08/2012 02:53:43 AM 452 Views
McCaskills campaign ran ads during the GOP primary calling Akin the "most conservative" candidate. - 24/08/2012 03:33:18 AM 589 Views
Interesting. - 24/08/2012 04:49:51 AM 392 Views
no it isn't kinda true - 24/08/2012 12:50:53 PM 366 Views

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