"If you don't want to root for your team, then you should get the hell out of the stadium."
Joel Send a noteboard - 02/09/2012 02:15:11 AM
The entire point of his statement was to diminish the contribution of entrepreneurs. Obama said, "You think you succeeded because you worked hard. Lots of people work hard. You think you succeeded because you are smart. Lots of people are smart." Of course, lots of people are NOT smart. The sad reality is that the majority of people are stupid, ignorant sheep that can be pushed to vote Democrat (if they're urban poor looking for a handout) or Republican (if they're rural poor afraid the government will regulate them).
But I digress. As I have said, the reason why entrepreneurs succeed is not because some fucking corrupt government officials build a bridge with sand-filled Mafia cement that lets people get to their business. It's because they combine a good idea with tons of hard work and are willing to bear the incredible RISK of being a small business owner.
As a small business owner, I believe that we deserve to enjoy the fruits of that labor, risk and intelligence. I don't want to hear that some fucking underperforming teacher is unhappy because the union benefits are being cut - I don't get those benefits or anything approaching it. Those public sector douchebags already get more benefits and security than I'll ever have. The reason why it makes sense for people to go out and start their own business, the reason that "government official" is not the most coveted position in this nation (as opposed to France, where it is), is because there is a reward for the risk.
So FUCK OBAMA, and fuck anyone else who can't understand that.
But I digress. As I have said, the reason why entrepreneurs succeed is not because some fucking corrupt government officials build a bridge with sand-filled Mafia cement that lets people get to their business. It's because they combine a good idea with tons of hard work and are willing to bear the incredible RISK of being a small business owner.
As a small business owner, I believe that we deserve to enjoy the fruits of that labor, risk and intelligence. I don't want to hear that some fucking underperforming teacher is unhappy because the union benefits are being cut - I don't get those benefits or anything approaching it. Those public sector douchebags already get more benefits and security than I'll ever have. The reason why it makes sense for people to go out and start their own business, the reason that "government official" is not the most coveted position in this nation (as opposed to France, where it is), is because there is a reward for the risk.
So FUCK OBAMA, and fuck anyone else who can't understand that.
And a little profane child shall lead them.
As a small business owner, without customers you would be boned. Without employees, boned. You might get by without suppliers since you are not an industrialist (though the folks who manufacture your office equipment and the reams of paper you go through weekly are,) but those employees and clients do not teleport to your office: They arrive on roads and railways mostly if not entirely built by government employees at taxpayer expense.If you dispute that, think your business can survive solely by your efforts and those of your clients, I encourage you to try, if only because your continual ungrateful sneers at everyone who contributes to your success but can afford no retainer are nauseating. You once said you support Romney because worried about your children: Do you wonder how you will feed them tonight? House them? Clothe them? Get them medical care when ill? Educate them for and then send them to college?
Tens of millions of Americans work 40, 50, 60 or more hours a day yet still rightly worry about all those things, to say nothing of those equally worried while working 20 hours a day and begging for more. They are part of "this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive" just as much as you are but, while no one denigrates your efforts, you take elitist pleasure in biting the hand that feeds you by denigrating THEIRS.
America is a team effort, not "the United States of Tom." Yes, you contribute to your own success, more than anyone else—but you are not the only contributor. Further, if you want to continue benefiting from "this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive," it would behoove you as well as the rest of us to contribute more to it than you grudgingly allow only because legally required and/or it directly benefits you.
A decade of repeated "job creator" tax cuts cost millions of jobs; that is no more Obamas fault than Nixon and Fords stagflation was Carters (yet the same people claim both.) If worried about your childrens future after Obama, recall trickle-down supply-side theory kept driving unemployment till 2% higher a year after his election: It took nearly three years just to lower to the Inauguration Day level. The one difference is DJIA is nearly twice as high; ironically, entrepreneurs and investors are among Obamas few beneficiaries so far. The problem with Obama is not that he makes the wealthy pay their share for the first time since the '70s, but that he SAYS he will then does not. Calling two extensions of the Bush tax CUTS beyond even the authors intent a "tax hike" feeds his populist narrative without changing that.
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This message last edited by Joel on 02/09/2012 at 06:38:45 PM
Does Not a "WE [Not I] BUILT THIS!" Banner Concede Warren and Obama Were Right?
- 01/09/2012 02:45:52 PM
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It amazing how much the left doesn't get tis issue
- 01/09/2012 02:55:44 PM
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It is amazing how well every sentence but your last covers the "We [not I] built this" view
- 01/09/2012 03:29:27 PM
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+1 - nicely said. The "built it" comment drives the left crazy, since they know.....
- 01/09/2012 04:25:52 PM
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Nope, it drives us crazy because it's an out-of-context fragment quote
- 01/09/2012 07:01:24 PM
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they all know what he said and context doesn't change it *NM*
- 01/09/2012 07:11:01 PM
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This is the kind of shit that makes me and my family not want to vote Republican.
- 02/09/2012 12:01:01 AM
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Interesting response....
- 02/09/2012 12:07:01 AM
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They're both acting normal (for politicians)
- 02/09/2012 12:12:31 AM
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I disagree; they both did something downright bizarre (again, for politicians; see link.)
- 02/09/2012 12:20:32 AM
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Heh.
- 02/09/2012 12:25:10 AM
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Bah, everyone knows Taxachusetts residents are mad, and tyrants to boot.
- 02/09/2012 03:04:57 AM
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- 02/09/2012 03:04:57 AM
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Yes the GOP really need to make more effort into trying to win Massachusetts
- 02/09/2012 02:17:49 PM
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Exactly, the context doesn't help. Libs believe government knows all and makes all possible.
- 01/09/2012 08:25:51 PM
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Sigh... what words a quote contains is not a matter of "POV."
- 01/09/2012 09:01:17 PM
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- 01/09/2012 09:01:17 PM
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Seriously. Like, I'm not debating policy here- I am saying that those are the literal words. *NM*
- 01/09/2012 11:53:39 PM
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I do not understand how that can be debated, yet it keeps happening.
- 02/09/2012 12:03:44 AM
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What should disturb you is what a bunch of unhinged hypocrites your party has become
- 02/09/2012 02:38:34 PM
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I have no party, and have already said mischaracterizing "corporations are people" is just as bad.
- 02/09/2012 04:15:01 PM
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Would you give a me link to where you created post upset about how Romney was being treated?
- 02/09/2012 09:10:03 PM
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Sure; the last time was about three days ago in response to you.
- 02/09/2012 09:20:55 PM
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are you on crack? that is a post of you defending the stupid Bain attacks on Romney
- 02/09/2012 09:30:00 PM
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You brought up Bain there; I merely responded and noted Romneys "corp." line was also misused.
- 02/09/2012 10:12:52 PM
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Joel. That's the thinking of a 12-year-old. You're better than that. *NM*
- 01/09/2012 05:17:25 PM
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Saying "you didn't build that" denigrates individuals is twelve-year-old thinking:I merely note that
- 01/09/2012 05:45:06 PM
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I know what Obama meant to say. If he said it to me I would want to punch him in his liberal mouth.
- 02/09/2012 12:23:47 AM
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Ok, I'll put this very naively.
- 02/09/2012 12:36:33 AM
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Obama had his chance.
- 02/09/2012 12:43:25 AM
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True, I think. I just wish the RNC had taken a more concrete approach like you did. Could fuck them. *NM*
- 02/09/2012 12:52:58 AM
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"The Democratic health care bill that bears Obama's name for no good reason"
- 02/09/2012 03:44:18 AM
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and you really want us to believe it is a few comments that are keeping you from voting republican? *NM*
- 02/09/2012 02:40:13 PM
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Your suggestion that what I floated to Tom is somehow antithetical to the GOP is laughable. *NM*
- 02/09/2012 05:29:33 PM
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In fairness to rt, that sounds a lot like a welfare state, which is pretty antithetical to the GOP.
- 02/09/2012 07:10:47 PM
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Most are willing to enter the debate, and give a measure of ground. Hence Romneycare. *NM*
- 02/09/2012 10:40:21 PM
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Fair enough, but once the show goes national we get Romneys pledge to repeal Romneycare.
- 02/09/2012 11:10:55 PM
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"If you don't want to root for your team, then you should get the hell out of the stadium."
- 02/09/2012 02:15:11 AM
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Your political philosophy seems based on ignoring the difference between voluntary & compulsory
- 02/09/2012 12:38:50 AM
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Yours seems based on ignoring the "WE THE PEOPLE" at the top of the document creating US government.
- 02/09/2012 02:48:45 AM
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I think there is something to be said for charitable interpretation.
- 02/09/2012 02:10:10 AM
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I am not sure what the best argument against the best reading of his argument would be.
- 02/09/2012 03:13:46 AM
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I don't think so
- 02/09/2012 01:47:03 PM
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True, but self-reliant individualism goes poorly with plural nouns.*
- 02/09/2012 04:18:22 PM
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