The numbers came from 2 different studies that I found online (but didn't bookmark), both of which were several years old, and the term "intentional abortion" is the studie's not mine, and I don't know what procedures they excluded that other studies on the topic might include; researcher bias is always a question/concern on studies of this nature.
Nate: you're right, in my coffee deprived state this morning I mislaced a decimal point.
None of which changes my final statement. The medical necessity argument is a minute fraction of abortions, as are maternal deaths directly from the abortion procedure. The use of either argument, either for or against, abortion is irrational. You don't use the exception as the basis of your arguemnt in favor of your position. Pro-abortion folks should not use the "life of the mother" argument as it is exceedingly rare. Nor should the anti-abortion folks, for the same reason, use the "maternal risk" argument.
tThe bottom line is that abortion is, always has been, and until technology changes it, always will be a moral arguement. Folks who are against it are truly against it on a moral basis, and nothing can be said to change their opinion. Folks in favor of it do not see the moral argumetn, or feel that the moral weight should be given to the mother as opposed to the unborn child.
In reality the entire dioscussion is a complete waste of time. Abortion is allowed in the US on a Constitutional basis. Unless and until a definitive majority of the population takes the position that it should not occur, it can not be stopped. SCotUS will never revisit the decision, and unless the Constitution is changed, no politician's opinion on the subject matters. The entire subject is moot, unless you just enjoy getting into a verbal fight with someone, which can be occasionally fun.
Nate: you're right, in my coffee deprived state this morning I mislaced a decimal point.
None of which changes my final statement. The medical necessity argument is a minute fraction of abortions, as are maternal deaths directly from the abortion procedure. The use of either argument, either for or against, abortion is irrational. You don't use the exception as the basis of your arguemnt in favor of your position. Pro-abortion folks should not use the "life of the mother" argument as it is exceedingly rare. Nor should the anti-abortion folks, for the same reason, use the "maternal risk" argument.
tThe bottom line is that abortion is, always has been, and until technology changes it, always will be a moral arguement. Folks who are against it are truly against it on a moral basis, and nothing can be said to change their opinion. Folks in favor of it do not see the moral argumetn, or feel that the moral weight should be given to the mother as opposed to the unborn child.
In reality the entire dioscussion is a complete waste of time. Abortion is allowed in the US on a Constitutional basis. Unless and until a definitive majority of the population takes the position that it should not occur, it can not be stopped. SCotUS will never revisit the decision, and unless the Constitution is changed, no politician's opinion on the subject matters. The entire subject is moot, unless you just enjoy getting into a verbal fight with someone, which can be occasionally fun.
woman dies after doctors deny her a life-saving abortion
14/11/2012 06:58:31 PM
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this is so terribly sad. keeping abortions legal is important. *NM*
14/11/2012 07:09:00 PM
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Well, I guess to expedite the process of argument and counter-argument, I'll post an article an
14/11/2012 07:28:01 PM
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you're right, i should have posted the actual article instead of an editorial. thanks!
14/11/2012 08:14:42 PM
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so terrible... i will never understand how this crap is considered "pro-life." *NM*
15/11/2012 01:15:56 AM
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Maybe this is more a testament to the quality of care in that hospital than an arguemnt for abortion *NM*
15/11/2012 01:49:00 PM
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Can you elaborate?
16/11/2012 04:07:48 PM
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Do you have access to her medical charts?
16/11/2012 08:44:45 PM
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The infection was from the fetus inside of her. That is not disputed.
16/11/2012 10:14:52 PM
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This wasn't pro-life, but more a case of anti-thinking
15/11/2012 06:28:55 PM
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but the pro-life (or anti-abortion) argument was the reason they gave for not allowing an abortion
15/11/2012 10:00:14 PM
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Once you know for certain that the mother is dying, it is too late.
16/11/2012 04:11:25 PM
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Statistically speaking...
15/11/2012 07:03:51 PM
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Psst.
15/11/2012 09:43:35 PM
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Re: Statistically speaking...
15/11/2012 10:56:35 PM
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Where's the due process?
15/11/2012 11:35:39 PM
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First, prove that the fetus is a "ONE".
16/11/2012 04:14:34 PM
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That argument is specious
16/11/2012 08:36:07 PM
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But you cannot call another living person an "environment." Only for parasites.
16/11/2012 10:16:18 PM
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Yes I can, look up the word environment
17/11/2012 11:49:55 AM
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Win some, lose some
15/11/2012 11:29:32 PM
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Some facts for you - from the article Stephen linked in his reply above, and from general knowledge.
16/11/2012 09:38:32 PM
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That is the most rational argument put forth thus far, HOWEVER
17/11/2012 07:06:58 PM
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Wow.
17/11/2012 07:28:23 PM
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Nah, I don't *try* to insult anyone (most of the time) , though I seem to do so fairly regularly. *NM*
18/11/2012 07:41:43 PM
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Re: That is the most rational argument put forth thus far, HOWEVER
17/11/2012 08:07:19 PM
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Nice decision to turn to insults. Print out your post and let it join your head, up your ass.
18/11/2012 07:50:18 PM
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The difference between Ireland and the UK is about 0.006%
17/11/2012 08:31:45 PM
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It illustrates that the "life of the mother" argument is rare to the point of irrelevance. *NM*
18/11/2012 07:45:36 PM
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And yet this case makes it irrefutably relevant. *NM*
20/11/2012 05:18:23 PM
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No, it really does not. Because the situation is so rare as to not be worth even discussing...
21/11/2012 03:24:01 PM
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In your opinion - in mine, and I suspect others here, it is not.
22/11/2012 12:03:20 AM
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I am not debating opinion, you can't debate opinion, I am trying to point out facts.
22/11/2012 05:29:24 PM
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