I am about as Anglophile as they come, as I dare say you may have noticed...
Legolas Send a noteboard - 20/11/2012 07:35:36 PM
but some things are hard to resist poking fun at.
The losing streak at Wimbledon being one of those things - and you know, there's a reason why Wimbledon's tennis club is called the "All England Lawn Tennis and Croquet Club".
It's funny you should take that example, because Eddy Merckx is one of those rare things around which all Belgians can unite, kind of like Belgian fries that way (or the national football team, now that they don't suck for the first time in two decades). With many other Belgians that you could name, the suggestion of them being not properly Belgian would actually make a lot of sense - and some, like some Scotsmen, would indeed prefer not to be called that.
Anyhow, of course I agree that Murray is British, especially since he doesn't seem to be one of those Scots who would rather *not* be British - but still they are, at least for the time being.

Murray is British, it really is that simple - the whole argument makes as much sense to me as suggesting Eddy Merckx isn't properly Belgian, since some Belgians want to break up Belgium and some Belgians are just trying to claim him as they're desperate.
It's funny you should take that example, because Eddy Merckx is one of those rare things around which all Belgians can unite, kind of like Belgian fries that way (or the national football team, now that they don't suck for the first time in two decades). With many other Belgians that you could name, the suggestion of them being not properly Belgian would actually make a lot of sense - and some, like some Scotsmen, would indeed prefer not to be called that.
Anyhow, of course I agree that Murray is British, especially since he doesn't seem to be one of those Scots who would rather *not* be British - but still they are, at least for the time being.
So, I found this video explaining the differences between The UK, Great Britain, England, etc.
19/11/2012 07:18:13 PM
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Great Britain is an island containing England, Scotland and Wales.
19/11/2012 08:07:35 PM
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Is that why Andy Murray is getting credit for being British? *NM*
19/11/2012 08:46:45 PM
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Ideally, yes; most likely, no.
19/11/2012 08:55:22 PM
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They keep saying "the first British man to win a Grand Slam title since 1938"
19/11/2012 10:12:44 PM
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Mostly that's an indication of just how desperate they were before that happened.
19/11/2012 10:30:40 PM
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Plus he is British
19/11/2012 10:49:38 PM
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I do believe I said so in my post, yes.
19/11/2012 11:00:05 PM
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Barely so, I would say.
19/11/2012 11:14:08 PM
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But Scotland is a different country than England, yes?
20/11/2012 12:34:07 AM
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Yes and no. Mostly no.
20/11/2012 10:59:10 AM
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So would you say
20/11/2012 04:21:36 PM
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Kind of, but not precisely. It's probably the easiest way to look at it, though. *NM*
20/11/2012 06:23:34 PM
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I am about as Anglophile as they come, as I dare say you may have noticed...
20/11/2012 07:35:36 PM
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Yes
20/11/2012 09:35:54 PM
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Now you just had to go and remind me...
20/11/2012 09:49:41 PM
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I'm speechless.
20/11/2012 10:08:53 PM
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Well, it IS true.
20/11/2012 08:12:13 PM
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I didn't say uncomfortable, I said funny.
20/11/2012 08:19:32 PM
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True, but it always felt very awkward to me, even when I considered mens tennis worth watching.
01/12/2012 05:10:21 PM
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Not all Scots dislike being called British. Only the Nationalist ones.
20/11/2012 07:34:32 PM
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Well, that is more reasonable then.
20/11/2012 08:07:18 PM
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Uh, what?
20/11/2012 08:55:12 PM
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Independence from England.
24/11/2012 01:37:11 PM
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The point I'm guessing Rebekah is referring to, and it's a fairly important one...
28/11/2012 07:20:11 PM
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Except that England did, however briefly, conquer and control Scotland.
01/12/2012 04:55:08 PM
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Re: Not all Scots dislike being called British. Only the Nationalist ones.
21/11/2012 12:58:26 AM
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