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Sure Jay Sherman Send a noteboard - 16/07/2013 06:49:20 PM
  1. Zimmerman claimed to be getting out of his truck to "read a street sign" to give to the police dispatcher despite the fact there are only three streets in his neighbourhood, and that he's lived there for several years, and he should be able to remember three street names after that much time in the neighbourhood.

  2. Zimmerman claimed to have no knowledge of the "Stand Your Ground" laws, despite receiving an "A" grade and being proclaimed one of the best students in his criminal justice class which specifically covered these laws.

  3. Zimmerman claims Martin started the altercation, despite the testimony of Rachel Jeantel who was actually speaking to Martin when the altercation began. Her version is completely at odds with Zimmerman's version of how the struggle began between the two.

  4. Zimmerman claims Martin pounded his head into the sidewalk 20-25 times, despite no DNA evidence on Martin other than a small amount on two fingers. This trace amount of DNA evidence is consistent with the punch in the nose, but the vast majority of punches in the nose are not life-threatening and do not justify murder.

  5. Zimmerman claims Martin circled his vehicle in a menacing fashion, but yet failed to mention this to the police dispatcher during his call.

  6. Zimmerman claims Martin jumped out of some bushes and ambushed him, despite there being no bushes in the vicinity of where they struggled.

  7. Zimmerman claims Martin reached for his gun, despite the fact that the gun was black, in a black holster, behind his hip where Martin would have had a lot of trouble viewing it in the dark during a physical altercation. There are also no fingerprints on the weapon other than Zimmerman's.

These are some of the biggest lies he told, not to mention the dialogue which sounds like a 1950s film noir detective story which he attributed to Martin. "You're gonna die tonight" and "Do you have a problem? Well you do now" etc etc.

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Zimmerman = Not Guilty - 14/07/2013 04:04:07 AM 2161 Views
Any charge, other than stupidity, was rediculous. *NM* - 14/07/2013 04:24:09 AM 683 Views
Stupidity+Death= Manslaughter *NM* - 14/07/2013 05:27:39 AM 650 Views
But hey... - 14/07/2013 05:35:11 AM 1355 Views
And THAT is the scary precendent this case sets for the populace - 14/07/2013 05:28:03 PM 1513 Views
Oh puhleeze... can you get any more rediculous? *NM* - 14/07/2013 07:22:52 PM 804 Views
HyogaRott baby, you are hurting me here. Can you please stop this? - 14/07/2013 11:29:00 PM 1220 Views
If inline spellcheck doesn't catch it, I probably won't either. - 15/07/2013 06:29:29 AM 1203 Views
Re: And THAT is the scary precendent this case sets for the populace - 14/07/2013 07:32:26 PM 1303 Views
you really are small minded little bigot - 15/07/2013 03:57:01 AM 1308 Views
+1 - Seriously has imlad always been this nuts? *NM* - 15/07/2013 04:32:33 AM 704 Views
Your reply is partisan and obnoxious. - 15/07/2013 02:15:13 PM 1262 Views
So it was okay that he was on top of a guy, pounding his head into the pavement? - 14/07/2013 06:45:17 PM 1223 Views
If you can believe Zimmerman's side of the story is 100% truth, I have a bridge for sale... - 15/07/2013 05:35:08 PM 1434 Views
do you have actual evidence to support zimmerman lied? *NM* - 16/07/2013 05:43:42 PM 691 Views
Sure - 16/07/2013 06:49:20 PM 1137 Views
Re: Sure - 16/07/2013 07:53:27 PM 1298 Views
Re: Sure - 16/07/2013 10:07:13 PM 1350 Views
Re: Sure - 17/07/2013 03:26:15 AM 1280 Views
The kid decided to beat a man who had a gun and got shot for it - 15/07/2013 03:46:38 AM 1289 Views
In a sane world, here is how their interaction plays out - 15/07/2013 05:44:26 PM 1185 Views
Yes. And the fact that he didn't simply ask him what he was doing, tells me he was racial profiling - 15/07/2013 08:59:41 PM 1193 Views
The only way that statement makes sense is if it is sarcasm - 16/07/2013 12:46:59 PM 1121 Views
And tomorrow I get to preach about the Good Samaritan. - 14/07/2013 05:26:50 AM 1466 Views
Where's your forgiveness?? Judge not lest ye be judged. - 14/07/2013 07:10:14 PM 1178 Views
Did I say a thing about Zimmerman? No. - 14/07/2013 08:44:26 PM 1331 Views
Oh my gosh. I'm so sorry. Which neighborhood watch were you referring to? - 15/07/2013 12:46:44 AM 1320 Views
Float your concept of grace in front of your priest sometime. - 15/07/2013 04:31:34 AM 1190 Views
Danny... - 15/07/2013 01:32:03 PM 1258 Views
You'd think the rain of venom in here would make everyone's soapbox too slippery to stand on - 15/07/2013 01:05:41 PM 1213 Views
+1 *NM* - 15/07/2013 06:40:15 PM 730 Views
would that be true for most of politics as well? *NM* - 16/07/2013 12:58:33 PM 716 Views
Depends on the case, but those aren't individual life and death criminal trials - 16/07/2013 01:52:00 PM 1120 Views
when the president gets involved it is safe to polotics are at play. - 16/07/2013 06:23:54 PM 1166 Views
That's not an unfair remark but it justifies criticizing him, not also getting involved in the case - 16/07/2013 06:59:53 PM 1202 Views
When a case shows glaring holes in the law, it should by nature cause those laws to be reconsidered - 16/07/2013 07:18:57 PM 1289 Views
I'm not sure what those 'glaring holes' are, but a specific person shouldn't be needed to show them - 16/07/2013 08:18:38 PM 1208 Views
It is a bit difficult to not use the case when the specificity of the case is the problem.... - 16/07/2013 11:06:59 PM 1292 Views
I sympathize with that but I think it remains a moral necessity to do so - 17/07/2013 12:14:39 AM 1334 Views
Re: I sympathize with that but I think it remains a moral necessity to do so - 17/07/2013 05:29:56 PM 1389 Views
I think you've over-personalized this case - 17/07/2013 08:00:50 PM 1393 Views
I think this case is simply the closest example at hand of a perceived lack of justice - 17/07/2013 10:34:38 PM 1332 Views
Re: I think this case is simply the closest example at hand of a perceived lack of justice - 18/07/2013 01:39:17 AM 1487 Views
Jury instructions - 18/07/2013 04:12:29 AM 1387 Views
Jury Instructions 2 - 18/07/2013 06:22:33 PM 1250 Views
I just want to comment on two points from your reply - 19/07/2013 09:47:06 PM 1193 Views
I'm pretty throughly exhausted of this - 19/07/2013 10:46:22 PM 1239 Views
Nice. - 16/07/2013 09:01:50 PM 1332 Views
Thanks - 16/07/2013 09:48:00 PM 1180 Views
Well said. - 17/07/2013 02:25:36 PM 1311 Views
it is possible to discuss a case based on what the evidence shows - 17/07/2013 06:03:05 PM 1279 Views
Of course it is possible, one just fails to see how it can serve any good end - 17/07/2013 09:43:02 PM 1195 Views
Exactly. *NM* - 18/07/2013 02:08:25 AM 760 Views
That just brings us full circle to my orignal reply to you - 18/07/2013 02:52:15 AM 1227 Views
Re: That just brings us full circle to my orignal reply to you - 18/07/2013 04:09:51 AM 1330 Views
are agree with your general concept - 18/07/2013 05:20:41 PM 1493 Views
Good. - 15/07/2013 02:11:12 PM 1150 Views
Perhaps one day black people will have the same rights as whites in the US - 15/07/2013 05:30:00 PM 1322 Views
Congratulations on making one of the dumbest statemets of the year. *NM* - 15/07/2013 09:00:46 PM 736 Views
You have tried retroatcively making Martin a criminal here, despite him doing nothing wrong - 15/07/2013 10:52:32 PM 1199 Views
So you support attacking creepy crackers who you think are following you? - 16/07/2013 12:56:52 PM 1192 Views
The law suggests that if I fear for my safety, I am justified in attacking first in self-defense - 18/07/2013 11:00:58 PM 1322 Views
there is zero evidience to support that assumption - 19/07/2013 04:25:15 AM 1165 Views
Let's see - Martin was using drugs..... - 16/07/2013 04:56:13 PM 1190 Views
Does that mean he should have been hunted down and shot? *NM* - 16/07/2013 05:22:43 PM 687 Views
He wasn't, so your question is irrelevant. - 16/07/2013 05:37:27 PM 1139 Views
Funny how black victims are rare enough to be famous. - 19/07/2013 12:24:12 PM 1148 Views

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