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Well, that's good. I feel like I'm working on 3 or 4 at this point. nossy Send a noteboard - 21/07/2013 05:41:21 PM

View original postThis response is more to the original post, but I know what you mean. On the one hand, the President has spoken about a trial. If you speak about one, there could be hundreds or thousands of others that deserve comment, but he didn't, and shouldn't.

I generally agree, but I still feel that he wasn't talking about the case. The only thing he said that directly relates was to the effect that he thought it was well-handled and appropriately done. Imo, he commented on the separate issue that arose from the conclusion of the trial.
On the other hand, he is the first person of color to be President. If he can't be involved in a discussion of race in our country, then who can? I think he could have been more diplomatic or less removed, but the president is a person too. I think it must be difficult for any president to be personable and be a leader at the same time. Carry on.

I think he definitely should be part of it, and I think that even though many of us won't like it, now may be the time to officially start the discussion. I want to know what he would say - we tend to forget that he isn't fully black, but we still think of him as though he is - that alone throws up warning flags to me, and makes me think he's uniquely positioned to help the sides meet up. If they let him.
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"Trayvon Martin could have been me." President Obama MrFarstrider - 19/07/2013 11:27:21 PM 1601 Views
My interpretation is that he's being incredibly racist...against blacks A Deathwatch Guard - 19/07/2013 11:52:37 PM 966 Views
I think you're right MrFarstrider - 19/07/2013 11:54:41 PM 857 Views
From the litlle I heard on NPR I had a couple real problems with it random thoughts - 20/07/2013 12:53:40 AM 912 Views
Would he just shut up about it already? *pukes a little in mouth* *NM* everynametaken - 20/07/2013 04:20:07 AM 380 Views
Yeah. As someone who voted for Obama and would do so again, this is embarrassing. Ghavrel - 20/07/2013 10:10:53 AM 771 Views
Ditto. Except I didn't vote for him a second time. everynametaken - 21/07/2013 01:34:54 AM 891 Views
Does it matter now? Martin is still dead and Zimmerman will stay free. It's over. Tom - 20/07/2013 04:24:43 AM 783 Views
It makes a great deal of difference MrFarstrider - 20/07/2013 04:40:55 AM 836 Views
C'mon guys. It's sounding very "I'm not a racist, I swear!" in here. nossy - 20/07/2013 03:32:08 PM 968 Views
I can't like your reply enough. *NM* Rebekah - 20/07/2013 03:42:00 PM 391 Views
"I am not a racist I swear it" is what we are reduced for not agreeing on race random thoughts - 20/07/2013 04:44:52 PM 841 Views
No. As I'll say to Isaac in a minute, I'll apologize for lumping everyone in nossy - 20/07/2013 08:06:49 PM 839 Views
for me his about what will work not what is fair random thoughts - 22/07/2013 06:06:13 PM 890 Views
It has to be both. Period. Nobody will accept someone else trying to change them nossy - 22/07/2013 07:29:15 PM 912 Views
sorry I don't see where he says a change in behaviour is part of the solution random thoughts - 23/07/2013 06:29:16 PM 774 Views
He did not talk about the case nossy - 23/07/2013 07:32:44 PM 790 Views
A touch over the top don't you think? Isaac - 20/07/2013 05:20:21 PM 813 Views
One comment, maybe. If anyone has taken offense nossy - 20/07/2013 09:09:45 PM 817 Views
Re: One comment, maybe. If anyone has taken offense Isaac - 20/07/2013 11:53:08 PM 851 Views
As mentioned nossy - 21/07/2013 12:18:14 AM 885 Views
Re: As mentioned Isaac - 21/07/2013 02:25:30 PM 807 Views
You just EXACTLY quoted the point I was making MrFarstrider - 20/07/2013 06:04:25 PM 890 Views
Em... not so sure I did. nossy - 20/07/2013 10:19:54 PM 741 Views
I think he's wrong for continuing to talk about it, and doing so in this manner A Deathwatch Guard - 21/07/2013 06:59:11 AM 935 Views
We will also have to agree to disagree. nossy - 21/07/2013 10:25:13 AM 949 Views
There are more important things for him to be focusing on, I think. That said, I think you're right. *NM* Ghavrel - 21/07/2013 08:16:34 AM 388 Views
There will always be something "more important." *NM* nossy - 21/07/2013 10:25:46 AM 356 Views
That's specious reasoning. Ghavrel - 21/07/2013 12:02:17 PM 769 Views
It is if you sidestep my point. nossy - 21/07/2013 05:15:19 PM 734 Views
I am of two minds on the issue. *edit* Avendesora - 21/07/2013 02:04:48 PM 856 Views
Well, that's good. I feel like I'm working on 3 or 4 at this point. nossy - 21/07/2013 05:41:21 PM 867 Views
People do forget that he's only half black - and more importantly, not "African American" at all. Legolas - 21/07/2013 07:08:28 PM 756 Views
I'm one of those annoying people who corrects others with "biracial". Avendesora - 22/07/2013 08:03:10 PM 888 Views
That's not appropriate. Obama identifies as black. *NM* Ghavrel - 23/07/2013 06:22:06 AM 415 Views
So do lots of white kids. nossy - 23/07/2013 08:50:12 AM 719 Views
It is the truth, though. Ghavrel - 23/07/2013 06:30:53 PM 785 Views
I do not agree. nossy - 23/07/2013 07:06:33 PM 808 Views
Because he has publicly said that he has lived the life of a black man. Ghavrel - 24/07/2013 06:12:27 AM 718 Views
I'm not saying he hasn't. In fact, I've said too many times in this thread that he has. nossy - 24/07/2013 08:21:04 AM 898 Views
Re: I'm not saying he hasn't. In fact, I've said too many times in this thread that he has. Avendesora - 24/07/2013 02:22:58 PM 838 Views
I know, and I find that weird. Avendesora - 23/07/2013 12:57:39 PM 830 Views
This is a complex issue. Avendesora - 23/07/2013 01:09:00 PM 753 Views
Because he looks black, he's been treated like a black person. Ghavrel - 23/07/2013 06:28:41 PM 740 Views
Yes nossy - 23/07/2013 07:11:54 PM 903 Views
Re: Because he looks black, he's been treated like a black person. Avendesora - 23/07/2013 11:31:03 PM 726 Views
Yes, Obama was raised by white people. Wikipedia says so, so it must be true! *NM* Macharius - 24/07/2013 04:16:31 AM 397 Views
Perusing. Avendesora - 24/07/2013 04:02:53 AM 848 Views
That makes sense. Generally, though, one should go by whatever the person in question identifies as. *NM* Ghavrel - 24/07/2013 06:13:28 AM 372 Views
I noticed the press wasn't aboard with idea when it came to Zimmerman random thoughts - 24/07/2013 12:49:00 PM 782 Views
Which is silly, because anyone can be racist. You are right, though. *NM* Ghavrel - 24/07/2013 10:32:55 PM 368 Views
No, only white people can be racist. /sarcasm Macharius - 25/07/2013 04:38:13 PM 818 Views
No, not really. Ghavrel - 26/07/2013 07:40:45 AM 725 Views
I've thought about this a lot recently (prejudice + power = racism). nossy - 26/07/2013 10:36:16 AM 977 Views
so some liberal ivory tower racist redefined the word to mean they were no racist random thoughts - 26/07/2013 01:16:48 PM 801 Views
My reply to Nossy above. Avendesora - 24/07/2013 02:25:49 PM 764 Views
As always, the voice of reason when I am about to discount the US as fucking mental. *NM* ironclad - 21/07/2013 03:17:15 PM 358 Views
That's not very nice. MrFarstrider - 21/07/2013 09:03:55 PM 876 Views
No, probably not. ironclad - 21/07/2013 10:01:36 PM 793 Views
Its unfortunate you see us the way you do MrFarstrider - 22/07/2013 06:05:30 AM 839 Views
So Obama smoked weed, punched school bus drivers, and got arrested for theft? Anonymous2000 - 21/07/2013 05:10:26 AM 766 Views
No, but he could have. jh - 21/07/2013 01:08:26 PM 722 Views
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