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Re: I'm not saying he hasn't. In fact, I've said too many times in this thread that he has. Avendesora Send a noteboard - 24/07/2013 02:22:58 PM

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View original postYes, he is biracial. But correcting someone who says "African-American" to say "no, he's biracial" is wrong (you can be both) and offensive (he identifies as African-American).


View original postHe is both, and saying "BIracial" covers both. It doesn't automatically cancel one or the other. I can concede that it could be rude in the context of the conversation, possibly, but not that it is offensive to the person who is actually biracial, unless one is using it to negate the experience of being one or the other.


View original postOn further thought, I can agree that it would be rude/incorrect if one were using "biracial" to say "He's not African American, or he's not black." That's an extension of my last sentence - I was previously thinking more along the lines of someone calling him AA/black in a derogatory way (and that Ave would be correcting the wrong), but if they are being inclusive or having a specific conversation, I can concede your point.

The funny thing about this whole discussion is, I've only ever said it a couple of times. My post above was kind of a backhanded joke. And I said it to start a discussion very like this one, and to gauge opinions. And here were are.

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One comment, maybe. If anyone has taken offense nossy - 20/07/2013 09:09:45 PM 726 Views
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Em... not so sure I did. nossy - 20/07/2013 10:19:54 PM 665 Views
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There will always be something "more important." *NM* nossy - 21/07/2013 10:25:46 AM 322 Views
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It is if you sidestep my point. nossy - 21/07/2013 05:15:19 PM 662 Views
I am of two minds on the issue. *edit* Avendesora - 21/07/2013 02:04:48 PM 752 Views
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Re: I'm not saying he hasn't. In fact, I've said too many times in this thread that he has. Avendesora - 24/07/2013 02:22:58 PM 740 Views
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This is a complex issue. Avendesora - 23/07/2013 01:09:00 PM 667 Views
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Yes nossy - 23/07/2013 07:11:54 PM 826 Views
Re: Because he looks black, he's been treated like a black person. Avendesora - 23/07/2013 11:31:03 PM 645 Views
Yes, Obama was raised by white people. Wikipedia says so, so it must be true! *NM* Macharius - 24/07/2013 04:16:31 AM 363 Views
Perusing. Avendesora - 24/07/2013 04:02:53 AM 735 Views
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No, only white people can be racist. /sarcasm Macharius - 25/07/2013 04:38:13 PM 734 Views
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My reply to Nossy above. Avendesora - 24/07/2013 02:25:49 PM 694 Views
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No, but he could have. jh - 21/07/2013 01:08:26 PM 656 Views
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