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Again, Rand Paul is loony left now? Joel Send a noteboard - 01/09/2013 10:15:17 PM

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In looney left land such theories might sound great but in the real world it will force democrats in congress to either support him and vote for an unpopular action or turn him down and make it look like his military actions are not even supported by his own party. Go ask David Cameron how that works. In the end he will either have to act against the will of congress or setback and accept their authority. This has lose written allover it for Obama.


Now of course his most rock solid fan base, the media, will carry water for him and that will help but they are not much more popular or trusted than congress these days.


"I think it's at least 50/50 whether the House will vote down involvement in the Syrian war. I think the Senate will rubber stamp what Obama wants but I think the House will be a much closer vote."—Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), in an interview on Meet the Press. My only disagreement is that if Obama goes for a joint resolution (constitutionally optional; the Founders were not stupid enough to require an asylum like the House weigh in whether to wage war) the vote will not be at all close.
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For once I am forced to admit Rand Paul said something reasonable and pragmatic
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So... a limited strike on Syria ? OrangeMini - 29/08/2013 04:31:07 PM 1425 Views
I would have supported action over a year ago, but not now. Tom - 29/08/2013 05:29:52 PM 926 Views
Rand Paul is a Leftist now? Joel - 30/08/2013 01:13:17 AM 1051 Views
Killing people to not look bad! What a guy! Cannoli - 29/08/2013 05:44:59 PM 998 Views
Re: So... a limited strike on Syria ? DomA - 29/08/2013 10:43:15 PM 986 Views
I think you're wrong. Tom - 30/08/2013 04:44:53 AM 959 Views
I think the real question is "Just how crazy is Iran?" HyogaRott - 30/08/2013 01:48:49 PM 1057 Views
You misunderstood me DomA - 30/08/2013 07:13:41 PM 921 Views
I don't think the Iranians are stupid enough to strike Tom - 01/09/2013 03:04:24 AM 875 Views
I don't really care Praziquantel - 30/08/2013 10:35:55 AM 951 Views
You can't effectively bomb Chemical and biological weapons stockpiles without using a nuke. HyogaRott - 30/08/2013 02:01:38 PM 978 Views
I am not a fan of symbolic bombing random thoughts - 30/08/2013 12:52:01 PM 984 Views
Looks like the buck inexplicably stops at Congress Joel - 31/08/2013 11:23:20 PM 889 Views
Well it sets a good precedent anyway Isaac - 01/09/2013 12:13:05 AM 859 Views
Unsure; I like the War Powers Resolution approach, though I am unsure of its constitutionality. Joel - 01/09/2013 01:49:15 AM 1092 Views
Nice theory, to bad it is crap random thoughts - 01/09/2013 06:23:31 PM 927 Views
Again, Rand Paul is loony left now? Joel - 01/09/2013 10:15:17 PM 1130 Views
Again you seem to have read most the words but completely missed the point random thoughts - 02/09/2013 06:48:26 PM 1031 Views
Rand Paul=/=MSNBC Joel - 02/09/2013 09:30:50 PM 922 Views
No... not quite. Youre really are quite skilled at missing the point aren't you? HyogaRott - 02/09/2013 11:20:02 PM 941 Views
Oh, no, I got the point. Joel - 03/09/2013 01:48:01 AM 944 Views
The only "point" you have is the talking points, and you hit them all, facts be damned. *NM* HyogaRott - 03/09/2013 02:56:06 AM 372 Views
Considering the WPRs constitutionality and agreeing Obama is being cowardly are not talking points. Joel - 03/09/2013 03:52:44 AM 1039 Views
Re: Considering the WPRs ... talking points. (had to snip it due to length) HyogaRott - 03/09/2013 05:49:08 PM 982 Views
"The only 'point' you have is the talking points...;" clearly those were not the sole points, Joel - 03/09/2013 10:08:43 PM 998 Views
Nah, I'm good, I've said what I wanted. I'm sure we'll get the opportunity to disagree again HyogaRott - 04/09/2013 05:58:47 AM 1021 Views
Fox and Joe Lieberman=/=MSNBC either. Joel - 02/09/2013 10:21:16 PM 1061 Views
Again you seem to have read most the words but completely missed the point random thoughts - 03/09/2013 01:17:29 AM 854 Views
Paul is saying what he always has: The commander-in-chief needs Congress' permission to command Joel - 03/09/2013 02:08:34 AM 876 Views
I see what the problem is random thoughts - 04/09/2013 01:07:08 PM 900 Views
More like the left hive does not know what the right hive is doing; Republicans are NOT cat herders. Joel - 04/09/2013 09:57:07 PM 971 Views
Yeah, I don't like any of it. Dannymac - 01/09/2013 12:40:35 AM 878 Views
Glad to hear you think he should more like Bush and asked congrees first random thoughts - 01/09/2013 06:27:03 PM 855 Views
How about no strike per the American people? Period. Fucking idiots in Washington. everynametaken - 01/09/2013 05:01:13 AM 958 Views
Re: How about no strike per the American people? Period. Fucking idiots in Washington. everynametaken - 01/09/2013 04:06:13 PM 988 Views
To be fair, that was what the American people said in 1940 Joel - 02/09/2013 05:19:46 AM 887 Views
Hall has frozen over... you are correct. HyogaRott - 02/09/2013 11:22:13 PM 965 Views
Well, glad we can agree on something. Joel - 03/09/2013 02:00:21 AM 970 Views
That comparison is not valid. everynametaken - 05/09/2013 09:25:38 PM 926 Views
Again, "I am not saying this situation is remotely like that one." Joel - 05/09/2013 10:48:39 PM 887 Views
I have to say, I am opposed to a strike against Assad. OrangeMini - 05/09/2013 10:46:04 AM 904 Views
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