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To be fair, that was what the American people said in 1940 Joel Send a noteboard - 02/09/2013 05:19:46 AM

Now, I am not saying this situation is remotely like that one; Assad is not likely to Pearl Harbor us even if he wants to (though one could argue his dad did via Hezbollah in '83,) and we ARE likely to have plenty of time and warning before he gains that ability. The point is we live in a republic rather than democracy precisely because the majority is not always right (something the German electorate underscored differently shortly before 1940.) Just because the majority do/not want something does not mean the country should/not do it. American majorities have supported slavery, prohibition and more than a few ill-advised military campaigns. That did not make any of them moral or wise, and many things that were both did not suddenly cease to be either when public support vanished.

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So... a limited strike on Syria ? OrangeMini - 29/08/2013 04:31:07 PM 1213 Views
I would have supported action over a year ago, but not now. Tom - 29/08/2013 05:29:52 PM 695 Views
Rand Paul is a Leftist now? Joel - 30/08/2013 01:13:17 AM 845 Views
Killing people to not look bad! What a guy! Cannoli - 29/08/2013 05:44:59 PM 760 Views
Re: So... a limited strike on Syria ? DomA - 29/08/2013 10:43:15 PM 759 Views
I think you're wrong. Tom - 30/08/2013 04:44:53 AM 729 Views
I think the real question is "Just how crazy is Iran?" HyogaRott - 30/08/2013 01:48:49 PM 830 Views
You misunderstood me DomA - 30/08/2013 07:13:41 PM 693 Views
I don't think the Iranians are stupid enough to strike Tom - 01/09/2013 03:04:24 AM 650 Views
I don't really care Praziquantel - 30/08/2013 10:35:55 AM 726 Views
You can't effectively bomb Chemical and biological weapons stockpiles without using a nuke. HyogaRott - 30/08/2013 02:01:38 PM 765 Views
I am not a fan of symbolic bombing random thoughts - 30/08/2013 12:52:01 PM 766 Views
Looks like the buck inexplicably stops at Congress Joel - 31/08/2013 11:23:20 PM 684 Views
Well it sets a good precedent anyway Isaac - 01/09/2013 12:13:05 AM 653 Views
Unsure; I like the War Powers Resolution approach, though I am unsure of its constitutionality. Joel - 01/09/2013 01:49:15 AM 845 Views
Nice theory, to bad it is crap random thoughts - 01/09/2013 06:23:31 PM 673 Views
Again, Rand Paul is loony left now? Joel - 01/09/2013 10:15:17 PM 890 Views
Again you seem to have read most the words but completely missed the point random thoughts - 02/09/2013 06:48:26 PM 815 Views
Rand Paul=/=MSNBC Joel - 02/09/2013 09:30:50 PM 675 Views
No... not quite. Youre really are quite skilled at missing the point aren't you? HyogaRott - 02/09/2013 11:20:02 PM 720 Views
Oh, no, I got the point. Joel - 03/09/2013 01:48:01 AM 694 Views
The only "point" you have is the talking points, and you hit them all, facts be damned. *NM* HyogaRott - 03/09/2013 02:56:06 AM 286 Views
Considering the WPRs constitutionality and agreeing Obama is being cowardly are not talking points. Joel - 03/09/2013 03:52:44 AM 821 Views
Re: Considering the WPRs ... talking points. (had to snip it due to length) HyogaRott - 03/09/2013 05:49:08 PM 756 Views
"The only 'point' you have is the talking points...;" clearly those were not the sole points, Joel - 03/09/2013 10:08:43 PM 777 Views
Nah, I'm good, I've said what I wanted. I'm sure we'll get the opportunity to disagree again HyogaRott - 04/09/2013 05:58:47 AM 809 Views
Fox and Joe Lieberman=/=MSNBC either. Joel - 02/09/2013 10:21:16 PM 825 Views
Again you seem to have read most the words but completely missed the point random thoughts - 03/09/2013 01:17:29 AM 638 Views
Paul is saying what he always has: The commander-in-chief needs Congress' permission to command Joel - 03/09/2013 02:08:34 AM 652 Views
I see what the problem is random thoughts - 04/09/2013 01:07:08 PM 668 Views
More like the left hive does not know what the right hive is doing; Republicans are NOT cat herders. Joel - 04/09/2013 09:57:07 PM 746 Views
Yeah, I don't like any of it. Dannymac - 01/09/2013 12:40:35 AM 693 Views
Glad to hear you think he should more like Bush and asked congrees first random thoughts - 01/09/2013 06:27:03 PM 627 Views
How about no strike per the American people? Period. Fucking idiots in Washington. everynametaken - 01/09/2013 05:01:13 AM 725 Views
Re: How about no strike per the American people? Period. Fucking idiots in Washington. everynametaken - 01/09/2013 04:06:13 PM 769 Views
To be fair, that was what the American people said in 1940 Joel - 02/09/2013 05:19:46 AM 682 Views
Hall has frozen over... you are correct. HyogaRott - 02/09/2013 11:22:13 PM 721 Views
Well, glad we can agree on something. Joel - 03/09/2013 02:00:21 AM 690 Views
That comparison is not valid. everynametaken - 05/09/2013 09:25:38 PM 692 Views
Again, "I am not saying this situation is remotely like that one." Joel - 05/09/2013 10:48:39 PM 659 Views
I have to say, I am opposed to a strike against Assad. OrangeMini - 05/09/2013 10:46:04 AM 673 Views
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