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Not to mention they've gerrymandered like there's no tomorrow. Legolas Send a noteboard - 07/10/2013 05:49:23 PM

Not that the Dems are innocent in that particular game, of course. It's times like those that America's federalism can be a curse - it might be rather easier to end that practice once and for all if you could just do it on the federal level.

View original postYou're kidding right? You think this is the swan song for the GOP? We had a shutdown every year from '76 to 90, then a five year gap, then it got shelved for a while because that one wasn't especially effective and we had 2 major wars in full swing. People never give a shit about this stuff a few months later, frankly its just a slow news cycle especially on politics. Eventually a deal will be reached, someone will come out a head though both sides will proclaim victory. Some dems will shout how it was a great triumph for Obama, some will scream that he rolled too easily, some GOP will claim the Republicans taught the libs a lesson, other will bellow Boehner and the RINOs rolled on them.

What do you think about the debt threshold though? Ten days until Default Day, isn't it? That puts rather a strong time limit on this shutdown, because unlike shutdowns (if you believe that), defaults are not exactly something harmless with a long tradition. Do you figure they'll get a deal on that while still letting the shutdown run on?

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Government "shutdown" my ass..... Anonymous2000 - 06/10/2013 06:48:02 PM 1495 Views
Why would your government shut down your ass? Yunalesca - 06/10/2013 08:03:57 PM 967 Views
Actually, it is... Dannymac - 07/10/2013 04:12:30 AM 929 Views
Must we do this again? Isaac - 07/10/2013 05:45:00 AM 910 Views
A whole generation has voted DNC twice. Dannymac - 07/10/2013 04:18:25 PM 745 Views
It voted RNC twice right before that, then DNC twice before that, then RNC thrice before that Isaac - 07/10/2013 05:18:31 PM 749 Views
elections are a cyclical affair by nature. the gop won't always be the party of stupid.... *NM* moondog - 07/10/2013 08:02:44 PM 441 Views
Not to mention they've gerrymandered like there's no tomorrow. Legolas - 07/10/2013 05:49:23 PM 811 Views
I hope we do default. ranagrande - 07/10/2013 07:04:24 PM 813 Views
Uhm. Legolas - 07/10/2013 09:09:45 PM 706 Views
Well it has been 70 years since we had a World War Isaac - 07/10/2013 09:37:14 PM 883 Views
You see in America we don't shoot stupid Roland00 - 08/10/2013 06:59:53 AM 709 Views
never going to happen Praziquantel - 08/10/2013 01:13:10 PM 908 Views
When gerrymandering there is no tomorrow, just the current decade Isaac - 07/10/2013 07:29:39 PM 790 Views
I'm curious as to why you say "unpopular bill" here Larry - 08/10/2013 09:02:49 AM 818 Views
Force of habit or slip of tongue, "Unpopular set of laws" Isaac - 08/10/2013 03:05:18 PM 816 Views
Ha! Larry - 09/10/2013 08:37:25 AM 833 Views
Bad enough, no? Legolas - 08/10/2013 06:32:06 PM 660 Views
Certainly Isaac - 08/10/2013 08:23:34 PM 896 Views
give a coherent reason for the shutdown and the label of economic terrorist will go away moondog - 07/10/2013 08:11:27 PM 923 Views
Why should I try to discourage you from using a label that makes you look like a fanatic? Isaac - 07/10/2013 09:23:40 PM 802 Views
i guess i should have put the disclaimer you asked for so you would know to be offended, is that it? moondog - 07/10/2013 10:49:43 PM 788 Views
It's pretty fucking sad any of us think we need a reason to act civilly, courtesy is its own reward *NM* Isaac - 08/10/2013 07:50:00 AM 473 Views
So you mean I shouldn't call you "an uncle fucking horsefucker" then? Larry - 08/10/2013 09:04:06 AM 738 Views
That's correct Larry, that would be unproductive Isaac - 08/10/2013 04:04:39 PM 819 Views
Of course it would; I rarely use such words toward people who might be still involved in a convo Larry - 09/10/2013 08:39:22 AM 732 Views
Re: Of course it would; [...] Isaac - 09/10/2013 05:25:28 PM 775 Views
hey, i've given plenty of reasonable alternatives, i don't see why you can't compromise with me *NM* moondog - 08/10/2013 10:09:44 PM 401 Views
Compromises? You've called my party terrorists and made it clear it wasn't hyperbole in your eyes Isaac - 08/10/2013 10:23:05 PM 812 Views
read what you wrote, direct it at your party, and look up "satire" if you still don't get it..... *NM* moondog - 08/10/2013 10:43:31 PM 501 Views
It's always painful when people think they're being funny or clever rather than sullen Isaac - 08/10/2013 11:33:36 PM 757 Views
remember that time when the Dems shut down the government to stop the iraq war? oh wait.... moondog - 09/10/2013 12:42:53 AM 798 Views
Probably a bad analogy pick, many of the Dem-initiated shutdowns were over defense spending Isaac - 09/10/2013 01:11:38 AM 715 Views
ok, henceforth instead of terrorists i will use "tea-hadists". is that more to your liking? moondog - 09/10/2013 10:26:36 PM 921 Views
No. Overdue, insincere, and half-assed attempts at marginal courtesy is not 'to my liking' Isaac - 09/10/2013 10:40:57 PM 777 Views
and here is the big picture, in a nutshell moondog - 10/10/2013 12:26:18 AM 857 Views
"Here's the big picture" remarks shouldn't start by complaining about your personal paycheck Isaac - 10/10/2013 12:37:34 AM 737 Views
i think 800,000 federal workers would disagree but YMMV moondog - 10/10/2013 12:44:29 AM 1036 Views
The GOP House already voted to give them back pay Isaac - 10/10/2013 01:21:27 AM 791 Views
the House is good at making empty gestures without actually addressing the causes moondog - 11/10/2013 05:17:34 PM 829 Views
How is agreeing to backpay an empty gesture? Isaac - 11/10/2013 05:37:58 PM 1138 Views
it's empty because the shutdown persists. end the shutdown and they won't need back pay moondog - 11/10/2013 11:02:20 PM 849 Views
Make up your mind, you complained early that you weren't getting paid Isaac - 11/10/2013 11:21:57 PM 746 Views
Clever. Did you make that one up yourself? I like it, will have to remember that one... *NM* Legolas - 09/10/2013 11:31:22 PM 423 Views
i can't claim to have invented it, but use it as you wish *NM* moondog - 09/10/2013 11:34:39 PM 421 Views
I do remember the time when some Democrats were tarnished with that pejorative brush... Larry - 09/10/2013 08:48:50 AM 814 Views
Re: I do remember the time when some Democrats were tarnished with that pejorative brush... moondog - 09/10/2013 09:51:22 PM 833 Views
That schtick got old a long time ago. You need newer, better material. Larry - 10/10/2013 03:43:31 AM 767 Views
you'll be rid of me for good soon enough, don't worry about it moondog - 11/10/2013 05:10:00 PM 955 Views
I couldn't care less either way. Just make stronger arguments. *NM* Larry - 11/10/2013 05:55:05 PM 437 Views
you do realize you would come out a loser in said anarchy don't you? random thoughts - 11/10/2013 03:56:24 AM 801 Views
You do realize that when I say "there are moments when I..." that it implies something else? Larry - 11/10/2013 08:22:26 AM 863 Views
the republicans won more elections now the democrats have shutdown the government random thoughts - 09/10/2013 06:37:31 PM 799 Views
to quote Jon Stewart: "if you're gonna shut it down, OWN IT! Don't fart and then point at the dog" *NM* moondog - 09/10/2013 09:37:28 PM 463 Views
I agree. So now Obama and the senate need to step up and own it. *NM* random thoughts - 10/10/2013 06:02:56 PM 359 Views
That's about it. MonCul - 09/10/2013 12:36:30 AM 641 Views
Also, I wish you wouldn't egg them on Isaac - 07/10/2013 05:46:20 AM 771 Views
While I agree with your sentiment, "Big Government" is not a cause. Palatine - 07/10/2013 03:34:40 PM 974 Views
Wow. Been a long time since we had a thread like this. I like it! :-) *NM* everynametaken - 10/10/2013 03:55:50 AM 426 Views
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