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You know.... Jeordam Send a noteboard - 09/12/2013 04:11:09 PM

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I don't read The Guardian. More of an Economist person myself. But in this particular case, I think revealing the scope of the surveillance state created by two authoritarian (with Obama being far more authoritarian than Bush) presidents has been good for both the country and the world.

I'm still quite divided by Snowden.

He said out loud what many have suspected for some time. But something about it still bothers me.

~Jeordam

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Saving the Princess, Humanity, or the World-Entire since 1985
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Guardian person of the year kHz1000 - 09/12/2013 02:52:49 PM 1370 Views
Good choice. Snowden is a true patriot. The Shrike - 09/12/2013 03:13:15 PM 948 Views
You know.... Jeordam - 09/12/2013 04:11:09 PM 945 Views
It's because I have libertarian(ish) leanings that The Shrike - 09/12/2013 04:36:13 PM 1035 Views
Agreed Isaac - 09/12/2013 05:38:36 PM 959 Views
Why go to prison when you know you've done the right thing? The Shrike - 09/12/2013 06:25:46 PM 914 Views
To prove it was the right thing? Isaac - 09/12/2013 07:12:34 PM 915 Views
Better to be free in Russia than rot in some American prison kHz1000 - 09/12/2013 09:10:20 PM 924 Views
Better for who? Isaac - 09/12/2013 09:51:09 PM 955 Views
Perhaps more in the eyes of the Americans? kHz1000 - 09/12/2013 11:10:10 PM 959 Views
In this context American opinion is the important one, since it is US policy under discussion Isaac - 09/12/2013 11:41:07 PM 943 Views
It would have been the right thing, and best for the anti-NSA movement A Deathwatch Guard - 10/12/2013 02:07:49 AM 989 Views
He did kind of lose his credibility by running to Moscow. Legolas - 09/12/2013 06:58:48 PM 877 Views
Running off to a police state to complain about a growing police state does harm credibility Isaac - 09/12/2013 07:30:59 PM 923 Views
Screw that. He's not obligated to martyr himself. beetnemesis - 11/12/2013 06:23:43 PM 899 Views
I think he would make a fine martyr *NM* random thoughts - 11/12/2013 07:15:51 PM 452 Views
We're discussing this in terms of "Person of the Year" *NM* Isaac - 11/12/2013 08:20:22 PM 452 Views
Of course he isn't. It's his own credibility and he can do what he likes with it. *NM* Legolas - 11/12/2013 10:00:59 PM 433 Views
Snowden deserves a bullet in the head for his betrayal of the US. Tom - 10/12/2013 03:42:37 PM 956 Views
In another news: Is Edward Snowden The Hottest Whistleblower? kHz1000 - 09/12/2013 09:15:34 PM 1043 Views
But if he was sincerely hot, he would have come back to be on America's Next Top Model. *NM* Burr - 10/12/2013 02:33:02 AM 785 Views
Well... Wibble - 10/12/2013 01:07:46 AM 1006 Views
Snowden is most despicable? A Deathwatch Guard - 10/12/2013 02:11:35 AM 971 Views
Re: Well... kHz1000 - 11/12/2013 12:54:52 AM 993 Views
It's the Guardian, so this isn't very surprising or conclusive A Deathwatch Guard - 10/12/2013 02:15:56 AM 946 Views
I couldn't agree more kHz1000 - 11/12/2013 12:47:25 AM 865 Views
I'm hardly knowledgeable on the topic A Deathwatch Guard - 12/12/2013 09:49:10 AM 974 Views
While i have mixed feelings about Snowden Stephen - 12/12/2013 04:56:37 PM 941 Views
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