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Perhaps more in the eyes of the Americans? kHz1000 Send a noteboard - 09/12/2013 11:10:10 PM

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View original postI don't care about his motives or his persona. Anybody in the right position could have leaked the information and that's what's important. The info, not the guy. Having said that, I'm glad the guy is free and not in prison for doing something that people all over the world are grateful for.

Are you're seriously arguing that Snowden remaining a guest of Russia did not hurt his cause?


Around here, the US isn't necessarily better beloved than Russia. And Snowden disappeared from the news ages ago, tapping Angela Merkel's phone or the Swedish FRA spying on behalf of the US, not so much.
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Guardian person of the year kHz1000 - 09/12/2013 02:52:49 PM 1504 Views
Good choice. Snowden is a true patriot. The Shrike - 09/12/2013 03:13:15 PM 1074 Views
You know.... Jeordam - 09/12/2013 04:11:09 PM 1063 Views
It's because I have libertarian(ish) leanings that The Shrike - 09/12/2013 04:36:13 PM 1161 Views
Agreed Isaac - 09/12/2013 05:38:36 PM 1092 Views
Why go to prison when you know you've done the right thing? The Shrike - 09/12/2013 06:25:46 PM 1047 Views
To prove it was the right thing? Isaac - 09/12/2013 07:12:34 PM 1032 Views
Better to be free in Russia than rot in some American prison kHz1000 - 09/12/2013 09:10:20 PM 1034 Views
Better for who? Isaac - 09/12/2013 09:51:09 PM 1075 Views
Perhaps more in the eyes of the Americans? kHz1000 - 09/12/2013 11:10:10 PM 1085 Views
In this context American opinion is the important one, since it is US policy under discussion Isaac - 09/12/2013 11:41:07 PM 1072 Views
It would have been the right thing, and best for the anti-NSA movement A Deathwatch Guard - 10/12/2013 02:07:49 AM 1112 Views
He did kind of lose his credibility by running to Moscow. Legolas - 09/12/2013 06:58:48 PM 998 Views
Running off to a police state to complain about a growing police state does harm credibility Isaac - 09/12/2013 07:30:59 PM 1055 Views
Screw that. He's not obligated to martyr himself. beetnemesis - 11/12/2013 06:23:43 PM 1030 Views
I think he would make a fine martyr *NM* random thoughts - 11/12/2013 07:15:51 PM 513 Views
We're discussing this in terms of "Person of the Year" *NM* Isaac - 11/12/2013 08:20:22 PM 510 Views
Of course he isn't. It's his own credibility and he can do what he likes with it. *NM* Legolas - 11/12/2013 10:00:59 PM 489 Views
Snowden deserves a bullet in the head for his betrayal of the US. Tom - 10/12/2013 03:42:37 PM 1097 Views
In another news: Is Edward Snowden The Hottest Whistleblower? kHz1000 - 09/12/2013 09:15:34 PM 1166 Views
But if he was sincerely hot, he would have come back to be on America's Next Top Model. *NM* Burr - 10/12/2013 02:33:02 AM 852 Views
Well... Wibble - 10/12/2013 01:07:46 AM 1124 Views
Snowden is most despicable? A Deathwatch Guard - 10/12/2013 02:11:35 AM 1100 Views
Re: Well... kHz1000 - 11/12/2013 12:54:52 AM 1121 Views
It's the Guardian, so this isn't very surprising or conclusive A Deathwatch Guard - 10/12/2013 02:15:56 AM 1067 Views
I couldn't agree more kHz1000 - 11/12/2013 12:47:25 AM 979 Views
I'm hardly knowledgeable on the topic A Deathwatch Guard - 12/12/2013 09:49:10 AM 1102 Views
While i have mixed feelings about Snowden Stephen - 12/12/2013 04:56:37 PM 1062 Views
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