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that ignores the point random thoughts Send a noteboard - 06/03/2014 02:01:09 PM

We promised them that their borders would be honored if they signed a nonproliferation treaty and gave up their nukes. Twenty years later the nation they gave their nukes to has invaded them and are using military force to set up a bogus referendum to steal part of their nation and the other nations has signed onto that promise are standing around make hollow promises of support.

The world is short sighted and naive if they don't think the next nation asked to sign or even honor a nonproliferation treaty won't look at this example. Hell, one of the arguments I keep hearing for not standing up to Putin is we need his help in Iran. I don't see how this sort of blatant disregard for the promises made to Ukraine will help the negotiations with Iran.

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Don't Make me Laugh, Mr. Obama Tom - 01/03/2014 03:14:50 AM 1658 Views
i like obama and even i think that was dumb of him. *NM* temeraire - 01/03/2014 05:24:39 AM 633 Views
yep yep. why do you hate on Kerry, though ? *NM* AgentApple - 01/03/2014 08:11:52 AM 526 Views
He's a useless asshat. *NM* Tom - 01/03/2014 04:14:54 PM 555 Views
He's not the only lame duck in this, though. DomA - 01/03/2014 05:41:01 PM 1219 Views
It's a little more complicated than that, I think. Legolas - 01/03/2014 07:42:20 PM 1109 Views
It's always more complicated... DomA - 01/03/2014 08:57:54 PM 1073 Views
Yes yes yes. This. Tom - 01/03/2014 09:11:19 PM 985 Views
Well, we split on that then - I most certainly do not support such an annexation. Legolas - 01/03/2014 10:25:48 PM 993 Views
Any reason you keep misspelling Sevastopol? Tom - 02/03/2014 12:52:01 AM 1208 Views
You write "the Ukraine", while calling me old-fashioned? Legolas - 02/03/2014 01:57:58 AM 1065 Views
Yes. Dropping "the" is an anti-Russian move. It will always be the Ukraine. Tom - 02/03/2014 02:58:32 AM 1074 Views
Just because there's an article in Russian doesn't mean there has to be one in English. Legolas - 02/03/2014 11:21:25 AM 1037 Views
I say the Sudan and the Congo. Tom - 02/03/2014 02:17:33 PM 1050 Views
You do? Why? Legolas - 02/03/2014 03:21:56 PM 1153 Views
As with most analysis at the Guardian, I think it's wrong. Tom - 02/03/2014 05:00:20 PM 1052 Views
This one from a former advisor of Reagan-Bush might be closer to your views DomA - 05/03/2014 09:01:13 PM 1270 Views
" la Crimée vaut bien un tiramisu" - I liked that. Tom - 05/03/2014 11:06:55 PM 1101 Views
Yeah, I laughed reading that too. The original piece in English was probably better... DomA - 06/03/2014 02:08:03 AM 1074 Views
I don't think it's limited to Crimea. They will likely occupy Eastern Ukraine as well. Tom - 01/03/2014 09:08:56 PM 1003 Views
its going to be hard to find support from the West MrFarstrider - 01/03/2014 06:37:15 PM 1026 Views
Well, no one in Europe or the US has any direct interest here. Tom - 01/03/2014 09:13:36 PM 945 Views
Obama is weak and is viewed as a joke by most of the world. Anonymous2000 - 03/03/2014 04:12:25 PM 924 Views
Don't worry, not as much as the ape before him *NM* ironclad - 04/03/2014 03:23:14 PM 552 Views
So what's your plan of action? Jay Sherman - 03/03/2014 11:25:59 PM 997 Views
My plan of action is to let Putin have Ukraine. We have no interests there. *NM* Tom - 04/03/2014 01:29:45 AM 570 Views
Ehem. Why are you being anti-Russian? ;-) The Shrike - 04/03/2014 01:25:37 PM 1061 Views
Lack of space in a subject line that was the entire message. Tom - 04/03/2014 02:21:49 PM 997 Views
I watch дождь via etvnet.com. Lovely site for all Russian TV. The Shrike - 04/03/2014 08:23:58 PM 998 Views
I like their criticism of Putin generally, but I don't buy the "enemy of my enemy" position. Tom - 05/03/2014 11:39:15 PM 966 Views
Of course we do random thoughts - 04/03/2014 04:57:09 PM 1020 Views
Wrong. Tom - 04/03/2014 06:04:31 PM 943 Views
that ignores the point random thoughts - 06/03/2014 02:01:09 PM 1215 Views
No, it doesn't. Tom - 06/03/2014 02:57:16 PM 1011 Views
Re: No, it doesn't. random thoughts - 06/03/2014 06:22:32 PM 1046 Views
Yes, the US violated the agreement. Tom - 06/03/2014 07:27:23 PM 1114 Views
I have answered your question but you have still refused to answer my point random thoughts - 07/03/2014 01:48:53 PM 1024 Views
You assume that the Ukraine's borders should be inviolate. Tom - 09/03/2014 05:56:45 PM 1054 Views
Russia signed an agreement to not violate those borders random thoughts - 10/03/2014 12:18:37 PM 1005 Views
Yes, and we signed the UN Charter, but invaded Kosovo anyway. Your point? Tom - 10/03/2014 01:10:33 PM 970 Views
Oh, and now the West is talking about $15 billion in loans for Ukraine. Tom - 05/03/2014 11:41:12 PM 965 Views
And you see that as the same thing as sending in troops? random thoughts - 06/03/2014 01:37:28 PM 960 Views
I think you've listened to too much propaganda from the 1990s. Tom - 06/03/2014 03:06:18 PM 950 Views
More like the 80s random thoughts - 07/03/2014 01:50:43 PM 1006 Views
So I guess traveling to Russia extensively is of no value. Tom - 09/03/2014 05:58:00 PM 951 Views
in this case no it doesn't. random thoughts - 10/03/2014 12:20:13 PM 942 Views
Right...do you understand how stupid that made you sound? Tom - 10/03/2014 01:11:34 PM 969 Views
Or alternatively, it made him sound as someone who was just referring to something else than you. Legolas - 10/03/2014 08:14:00 PM 1025 Views
The junk they used in Chechnya was laughable... everynametaken - 16/03/2014 01:51:28 AM 1148 Views
Its a great time to throw some missiles in Poland MrFarstrider - 04/03/2014 03:43:24 AM 1066 Views
Call me crazy, but I like this idea! MonCul - 04/03/2014 12:31:07 PM 1145 Views
There are no longer two super powers *NM* random thoughts - 04/03/2014 04:40:16 PM 546 Views
Under Obama, it would seem there are none. *NM* Tom - 04/03/2014 06:15:27 PM 511 Views
at Poland *NM* ßelals Girl - 04/03/2014 08:09:14 PM 531 Views
In case you're not familiar with BMD MrFarstrider - 04/03/2014 11:13:06 PM 1027 Views
I know what you're talking about, I was just kidding around *NM* ßelals Girl - 04/03/2014 11:41:20 PM 539 Views
*NM* MrFarstrider - 05/03/2014 12:38:54 AM 543 Views
*NM* ßelals Girl - 05/03/2014 01:00:57 AM 529 Views
Ron Paul, interestingly enough, agrees with me. Tom - 04/03/2014 02:38:44 PM 965 Views
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