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I couldn't disagree more... Jeordam Send a noteboard - 06/05/2014 10:50:19 PM

(Note: Maybe a conversation will be good for the place?)

The idea that you sitting there listening (or not listening as the case were) amounts to "forcing" you to participate boggles my mind. You do realize that prayer is not a passive activity? It is active. If you're sitting there listening to someone else pray, that is not prayer. You are just sitting there listening to someone else talk.

Also the concept of the presence of religion in a public setting amounts to establishing a religion does not work. A government establishing a religion would be the Church of England (historical). The king established the faith. He modeled it after what he believed and wanted using another as 95% of the framework (note: percentage made up on the fly...but you get my meaning hopefully).

I'm not picking a fight. I'm just stating that you sitting there doesn't amount to you participating or supporting. Much akin to <name a group> has a parade doesn't make you a supporter because you happen to pay taxes in that city.

~Jeordam

ex-Admin at wotmania (all things wot & art galleries)
Saving the Princess, Humanity, or the World-Entire since 1985
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