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Funny that the military top brass agrees with it, then. Legolas Send a noteboard - 03/06/2014 08:51:48 PM

View original postHe negotiated with the enemy/terrorists, gave up 5 guys that seem pretty important to the Taliban, and got back a deserter whose desertion directly caused the death of other soldiers (when they went looking for him).

That last part seems to be somewhat in dispute - I suppose mostly because "directly" is rather ambiguous in these cases, and we never know what would have happened otherwise.

And you do realize how idiotic "he negotiated with the enemy" sounds as a reason for impeachment, yes?

View original postThink about all this for a minute. This is a remarkable lack of judgment as commander in chief.

Or maybe he just followed the long-standing military policy which, as moondog notes, his (domestic) enemies would just as strongly have defended if he had violated it, as they decry it now that he followed it.

Quote no. 1:

Rear Adm. John F. Kirby, the Pentagon spokesman, said that there was a larger matter at play: The American military does not leave soldiers behind. “When you’re in the Navy, and you go overboard, it doesn’t matter if you were pushed, fell or jumped,” he said. “We’re going to turn the ship around and pick you up.”

Quote no. 2, from Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff:

In response to those of you interested in my personal judgments about the recovery of SGT Bowe Bergdahl, the questions about this particular soldier’s conduct are separate from our effort to recover ANY U.S. service member in enemy captivity. This was likely the last, best opportunity to free him. As for the circumstances of his capture, when he is able to provide them, we’ll learn the facts. Like any American, he is innocent until proven guilty. Our Army’s leaders will not look away from misconduct if it occurred. In the meantime, we will continue to care for him and his family. Finally, I want to thank those who for almost five years worked to find him, prepared to rescue him, and ultimately put themselves at risk to recover him.

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Obama negotiates with terrorists, gains the release of a US deserter and possible traitor. - 03/06/2014 04:44:35 AM 1512 Views
I don't think it is that cut and dry - 03/06/2014 01:00:16 PM 839 Views
It is now cut and dry, he is a deserter..... - 03/06/2014 04:18:21 PM 842 Views
Bull. Shit. - 03/06/2014 04:46:08 PM 967 Views
he has right to a trial - 03/06/2014 06:27:39 PM 801 Views
Well of course he does. I can't act as his judge, jury and executioner, either. - 03/06/2014 06:45:58 PM 959 Views
I think he is guilty as hell - 03/06/2014 11:24:02 PM 879 Views
I don't think he should have rot there, either. - 04/06/2014 04:05:18 AM 788 Views
I agree with with all of that *NM* - 04/06/2014 12:59:45 PM 449 Views
glad to see you put your politics above your country, tom - 04/06/2014 07:32:55 PM 832 Views
You're full of shit, as usual. - 04/06/2014 07:45:43 PM 772 Views
and you are more brainwashed, as usual - 04/06/2014 07:56:29 PM 811 Views
Moondog = braindead partisan hack - 04/06/2014 08:52:28 PM 756 Views
You really are stupid, aren't you? - 05/06/2014 05:26:38 PM 744 Views
thank you for having the reasonable approach to this - 03/06/2014 07:56:49 PM 823 Views
Obama is a weak fool - 03/06/2014 04:04:58 PM 775 Views
They should impeach the fucking douchebag. - 03/06/2014 04:48:28 PM 772 Views
I'm picturing you ranting to a half-empty bar as you wave a glass around, and it's amusing - 05/06/2014 03:52:15 PM 796 Views
Yeah, I don't really picture you at all. - 05/06/2014 05:20:48 PM 759 Views
Haha awww who's a Grouchy Gus today? - 05/06/2014 06:24:25 PM 759 Views
Sounds like you do picture him. *NM* - 07/06/2014 08:38:42 PM 382 Views
Serious question....as Tom mentioned.....should Obama be impeached for this? - 03/06/2014 06:55:24 PM 741 Views
stupid answer: yes, impeach Obama at your earliest convenience *NM* - 03/06/2014 08:48:28 PM 517 Views
Funny that the military top brass agrees with it, then. - 03/06/2014 08:51:48 PM 832 Views
Sec. Gates was against it when he was Sec. of Defense, Panetta said hell no. *NM* - 04/06/2014 04:07:49 AM 406 Views
Yup, most top military leadership was against this reckless move. *NM* - 04/06/2014 04:26:16 AM 411 Views
STATEMENT BY JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF GENERAL MARTIN E. DEMPSEY - 04/06/2014 07:36:43 PM 790 Views
These people will say what Obama orders them to say. *NM* - 05/06/2014 06:17:14 AM 389 Views
Statement by Secretary of the Army John McHugh - 04/06/2014 07:37:35 PM 923 Views
lots of republicans were for Bergdahl's release before they were against it - 04/06/2014 07:42:45 PM 854 Views
you missed the one where they suggest trading high level captives for his return - 04/06/2014 09:37:22 PM 778 Views
Oh wait, that's because it doesn't exist... *NM* - 05/06/2014 06:18:11 AM 419 Views
you do know I was being sarcastic? - 05/06/2014 06:11:39 PM 894 Views
Oh yes. I was just adding to the general tone. - 06/06/2014 03:01:11 PM 766 Views
so you must know all the details since you're secretly a top-level government official? - 05/06/2014 08:41:14 PM 794 Views
was this a reply to the correct comment? *NM* - 06/06/2014 05:45:16 PM 423 Views
no *NM* - 03/06/2014 11:19:09 PM 412 Views
Guerrillas or insurgents, actually. - 04/06/2014 01:47:26 AM 970 Views
Does Bowe Bergdahl = Nicholas Brady? - 04/06/2014 04:30:02 AM 809 Views
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. - 04/06/2014 09:29:15 PM 764 Views
Absolutely not. - 05/06/2014 06:21:59 AM 744 Views
Re: Absolutely not. - 05/06/2014 08:43:55 PM 764 Views
You seem to have missed the concept of "Justified" in there - 07/06/2014 11:36:25 PM 969 Views
no, i'm pretty sure i got it right - 09/06/2014 09:37:49 PM 769 Views
Re: no, i'm pretty sure i got it right - 10/06/2014 03:43:49 AM 876 Views
a few facts you are neglecting - 11/06/2014 07:08:16 PM 672 Views
You may want to not paint everyone with the same brush there. - 11/06/2014 08:03:31 PM 766 Views
Thank you *NM* - 11/06/2014 11:01:58 PM 563 Views
I... don't really care, to be honest - 05/06/2014 03:17:25 PM 805 Views
I'm kinda undecided on this - 06/06/2014 03:32:16 AM 870 Views

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