View original postThe SNP and Conservatives both seem to have reaped the benefits of demonizing the other - making Scots feel that only a SNP vote could keep the Conservatives out of power, and making the English feel that only a Conservative vote would keep the SNP from dominating the whole UK by holding the swing votes needed to give Labour a majority.
And there are LOADS of Scots who voted for the SNP to stick it to Labour for various reasons, one of which was working with the Conservatives in the Better Together campaign for a No vote in the Referendum.
Can you imagine how hard it would have been to sell two separate No campaigns? "Oh yes, we want the UK to stay together but we couldn't possibly work with someone else to achieve that."
People are stupid and they make me irate.
View original postAs for independence - the Scots rejected independence less than a year ago in the referendum. There won't be a second one immediately, and there won't be independence without a referendum. But there's almost certainly going to be a UK-wide referendum in 2017 on leaving the EU, and if the "yes" camp should win that, it's very likely that Scotland would promptly vote to secede and stay in the EU. There may be other excuses the SNP could use for a second referendum - and after yesterday's election, I wouldn't be surprised if the pro-independence camp gains enough votes to win.
The SNP won't use this general election as a mandate to push for another referendum, but there's a Scottish parliament election next year and the likelihood is that the SNP will get a vast majority since there's not a hope in hell of Labour appealing to the people who have just voted against them. So they'll use that to ask Westminster for another referendum. And then Westminster will be between a rock and a hard place since they can't say no as the SNP will use that against them, and they can't say yes because then the UK will split. They could say yes on the proviso there's a certain percentage of votes before any change but they didn't ask for that last time so I don't know if they would again.
I really, really hate the idea of another referendum. The last one was awful, really divisive, made me angry with a few of my friends (and question their intellect, which is unfair) and was a horribly stressful time. I actually cried when the first results came in for No.
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David Cameron whoops ass.....
- 08/05/2015 01:33:15 PM
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This time you're not talking nonsense. 
- 08/05/2015 05:36:35 PM
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- 08/05/2015 05:36:35 PM
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The UK election system is as much a mystery as is cricket.....
- 08/05/2015 05:44:31 PM
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It's basically the same system as yours, you do realize? For Congress, anyway.
- 08/05/2015 06:32:54 PM
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For Congress, anyway.
- 08/05/2015 06:32:54 PM
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The Scots seem quite suicidal
- 09/05/2015 04:29:31 AM
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Yes - but so do the Eurosceptic English.
- 09/05/2015 09:27:39 AM
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The euro can only survive in one form
- 09/05/2015 05:39:34 PM
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Devaluation isn't exactly what you'd call a long-term solution.
- 09/05/2015 08:38:54 PM
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What fool or fools started the EU?
- 09/05/2015 01:37:27 PM
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Because Europe was doing so well before then, right?
- 09/05/2015 07:51:30 PM
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- 09/05/2015 07:51:30 PM
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The Euro would have worked better if there had been fiscal integration.
- 10/05/2015 09:43:43 PM
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Re Scotland:
- 10/05/2015 09:41:43 PM
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So what is the SNP going to do if Cameron tells them (rightly) to sod off about another referendum?
- 11/05/2015 01:45:16 AM
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Not the SNP so much as the people.
- 11/05/2015 02:00:32 PM
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So the mob rules now, does it?
- 11/05/2015 06:04:04 PM
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Significant devolution will happen, that's for sure.
- 11/05/2015 09:07:00 PM
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Why?
- 12/05/2015 07:10:31 AM
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*NM*
Re: It's basically the same system as yours, you do realize? For Congress, anyway.
- 11/05/2015 05:32:55 AM
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For Congress, anyway.
- 11/05/2015 05:32:55 AM
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The US is made up of 50 nations
- 12/05/2015 03:19:25 PM
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Indeed, but with the same two parties everywhere.
- 12/05/2015 06:35:27 PM
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Wisconsin's drinking age
- 13/05/2015 01:09:53 PM
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I know. It's really sad that that's the most reasonable law anywhere in the US...
- 13/05/2015 06:26:09 PM
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The states still can set the drinking age, incidentally. The feds can just withhold some funds.
- 13/05/2015 02:55:51 AM
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They have still gutted the 10th amendment
- 13/05/2015 01:47:53 PM
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I agree they've gutted it. I'm not sure how I feel about it.
- 14/05/2015 07:37:22 AM
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Well your elected senators are not that stellar 
- 14/05/2015 01:38:37 PM
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- 14/05/2015 01:38:37 PM
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They're all right. They're a hell of a lot better than our elected state legislature.
- 17/05/2015 05:37:35 AM
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