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No one says it's easy, but the alternatives are so much worse ironclad Send a noteboard - 18/11/2015 08:18:47 AM

View original postI doubt Germany needs a ton of fifth-rate engineers who can't speak German worth shit. They'll end up as part of a dead-end underclass. They've already brought enough crime in with them; if they stay they will settle in ghettos of Arabic speakers and live on the fringes. Say that kicking them out helps ISIS all you want, but leaving them will help ISIS even more.

See and that's where you're wrong. Leaving them in keeps them away from ISIS. Of course integrating them won't be an easy feat and it's important to prevent the creation of ghettos (which may be a huge part of the reason France is where it's at today). But the ones that are met with open arms, kindness, language courses and a fighting chance in the job world will definitely not turn to IS, even if they return home later after all. Those met with mistrust and turned away from here will definitely be our future enemies on the IS side or their victims. How does that help anyone? This war won't be won by bombs alone.
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Obama, a few days ago - ISIS is "contained" Anonymous2000 - 14/11/2015 08:22:40 PM 1697 Views
What does one thing have to do with the other? Legolas - 14/11/2015 09:30:59 PM 1089 Views
Oh, you poor naive silly man Cannoli - 15/11/2015 12:15:48 AM 1012 Views
I quite agree it was inevitably going to happen. Doesn't stop it from being tasteless and silly. *NM* Legolas - 15/11/2015 01:29:18 AM 583 Views
Exactly. ironclad - 16/11/2015 10:01:14 AM 1441 Views
Buash and Cheney created the mess in the Middle East?Now thats funny *NM* random thoughts - 16/11/2015 01:39:32 PM 630 Views
What exactly destabilized Iraq? ironclad - 16/11/2015 02:03:19 PM 1303 Views
Does that mean you support secular dictators? Tom - 17/11/2015 01:50:52 AM 1005 Views
Bush signed the withdrawal agreement, not Obama. Vodalus - 17/11/2015 05:53:13 PM 1062 Views
stop reading crazy left wing sources random thoughts - 17/11/2015 07:24:49 PM 1109 Views
The withdrawal and its timeline were part of the 2008 SOFA signed by Bush. Vodalus - 17/11/2015 07:36:56 PM 982 Views
Just becuase people tell you stupid things does not mean you have to believe them random thoughts - 19/11/2015 07:34:25 PM 904 Views
Wow! I'm communicating with someone from an alternate reality. *NM* Vodalus - 19/11/2015 10:32:56 PM 662 Views
nope, just a republican moondog - 20/11/2015 12:41:15 AM 925 Views
That kind of thinking doesn't help. Vodalus - 20/11/2015 04:21:21 AM 972 Views
I suspect that happens to you a lot. *NM* random thoughts - 20/11/2015 07:15:42 PM 531 Views
When did you stop beating your children? moondog - 20/11/2015 12:27:59 AM 840 Views
True. Though obama has his share of mistakes AgentApple - 17/11/2015 07:12:28 AM 1002 Views
Obama pullying troops out early random thoughts - 17/11/2015 07:22:10 PM 879 Views
How did ISIS start in Syria? Clearly it started in Iraq. Legolas - 17/11/2015 07:50:36 PM 1016 Views
If you want to take it back far enough it began in fighting Russia in Afghanistan random thoughts - 18/11/2015 01:25:06 PM 920 Views
I'm not sure how this is even a debate. Legolas - 18/11/2015 08:00:47 PM 1013 Views
where did they first take and any significant territory? *NM* random thoughts - 19/11/2015 07:43:19 PM 542 Views
You're an idiot *NM* TheCrownless - 14/11/2015 09:32:17 PM 576 Views
Confirmed - one of the terrorists was a "Syrian Refugee" Anonymous2000 - 15/11/2015 01:35:11 AM 863 Views
Now they're saying the passport might be fake AgentApple - 15/11/2015 06:36:45 AM 1003 Views
Not confirmed at all ironclad - 16/11/2015 10:00:19 AM 1363 Views
I can't see how you get from A to B random thoughts - 16/11/2015 01:42:04 PM 940 Views
I don't understand you. Tom - 17/11/2015 01:48:02 AM 948 Views
That is because I am not against intellectualism random thoughts - 17/11/2015 07:35:17 PM 1007 Views
The fingerprints match the refugee so yes, it's confirmed. The mastermind posed as one, too. Tom - 17/11/2015 01:45:33 AM 895 Views
78% of all Syrian "refugees" are men. Something is up. *NM* Anonymous2000 - 17/11/2015 04:03:14 AM 681 Views
And sadly, Germany is too emasculated to respond adequately. Tom - 17/11/2015 03:52:45 PM 933 Views
Glad to disappoint you by having a heart ironclad - 17/11/2015 03:56:48 PM 1391 Views
A heart, but not a brain Tom - 20/11/2015 06:00:06 PM 931 Views
Yup *NM* ßelals Girl - 17/11/2015 05:53:08 PM 603 Views
Well, when those who want mid-1930s Germany back are disappointed... ironclad - 17/11/2015 10:35:45 PM 1274 Views
No. You've just gone from a horrific extreme to the pathetic opposite extreme. *NM* Tom - 20/11/2015 06:08:05 PM 544 Views
Deport the economic refugees to where, precisely? Legolas - 17/11/2015 08:14:51 PM 1010 Views
Back to their home countries Tom - 17/11/2015 10:13:51 PM 883 Views
Right. In that case, yes, they're working on that. Legolas - 17/11/2015 10:55:55 PM 1050 Views
10% acceptance for Pakistan still sounds high Tom - 18/11/2015 02:37:29 AM 1013 Views
No one says it's easy, but the alternatives are so much worse ironclad - 18/11/2015 08:18:47 AM 1416 Views
Just answer one question Tom - 20/11/2015 06:05:41 PM 973 Views
Re: Just answer one question ironclad - 20/11/2015 10:34:35 PM 1444 Views
You're so naive. Tom - 22/11/2015 06:25:04 PM 993 Views
Trump maintains his lead. A poll today from New Hampshire has him solidly leading. Tom - 17/11/2015 01:55:00 AM 893 Views
Calling all liberal posters - Paris Mastermind boasts about using the refugee crisis Anonymous2000 - 17/11/2015 04:30:25 AM 938 Views
Again, you're doing a great job for them. ironclad - 17/11/2015 08:17:09 AM 1390 Views
"Even if there were a handful of terrorists among the refugees" Anonymous2000 - 17/11/2015 01:23:54 PM 1048 Views
Re: "Even if there were a handful of terrorists among the refugees" DomA - 19/11/2015 11:42:12 PM 1132 Views
"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free...." moondog - 20/11/2015 12:37:55 AM 1045 Views
It's a fucking statue. It has nothing to do with freedom or anything of the sort. Cannoli - 20/11/2015 01:17:57 AM 1055 Views
Well said Tom - 20/11/2015 08:03:26 PM 1037 Views
For better or worse... gban007 - 21/11/2015 04:56:50 AM 1052 Views
Re: For better or worse... Cannoli - 24/11/2015 02:19:50 AM 1166 Views
Re: For better or worse... gban007 - 27/11/2015 09:51:16 PM 1177 Views
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