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Re: For better or worse... Cannoli Send a noteboard - 24/11/2015 02:19:50 AM

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When he said thank France for gift of Freedom, I thought he just meant the statue of liberty itself, which I think is a nice gift for what it is, though its general relevance to the matter at hand I wasn't overly sure on.
Well, I gave him the benefit of the doubt for argument's sake.
While I am one who thinks the US came in later in both World Wars than they should have, (especially the 2nd - the first while horrific was based around different belligerents, no real 'right' or 'wrong' side like can generally be said for WW2)

That's not even really the case. It's more like a property dispute between two neighbors, and after the fact, you discover that one of them was secretly a pedophile. It makes him bad, but it doesn't make him wrong in the dispute. When the more far-sighted statesmen in Europe were predicting another war in 20 years as a result of the treaties at Versailles & Trianon, they were not predicting the rise of a genocidal dictatorship, they were anticipating Germany being furious enough to want their stuff back. The war started over just as much blind stupidity as the first one did, and like the first one, should have been nothing more than a minor Eastern European boundary dispute, but Britain and France, for reasons of national chauvinism, turned it into a world-wide conflict.
Cannoli
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