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I honestly don't care that federal law is more harsh Brian Send a noteboard - 24/10/2009 01:04:16 AM
Unless your in Texas, and then its automatically death for everything.

The idea of making it worse for a white man to beat up a black man is just silly. Both are crimes, and both should be punished. Treat the crimes like what they are, and punish the offenders. Educate the youth, and focus on eliminating these crimes a different way.

Edit: Also, all these laws really do is give people in Congress something they can roll out and say that they are doing their part in solving the hate crime problem.
This message last edited by Brian on 24/10/2009 at 01:09:41 AM
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Matthew Shepard act passed Dominic - 23/10/2009 07:54:07 PM 900 Views
Meh Brian - 23/10/2009 08:06:22 PM 513 Views
Federal punishment is usually harsher then state law Ryan - 23/10/2009 09:27:49 PM 502 Views
I honestly don't care that federal law is more harsh Brian - 24/10/2009 01:04:16 AM 491 Views
68-29, eh? Party line division? *NM* TaskmasterJack - 23/10/2009 08:25:07 PM 186 Views
More or less Isaac - 23/10/2009 08:35:10 PM 502 Views
All hate crime legislation is stupid..... trzaska2000 - 23/10/2009 10:15:02 PM 511 Views
I'm sure Orwell would be intrigued by his own prognosticative abilities. LiterateDog - 24/10/2009 12:52:24 AM 520 Views
Didn't we already slice crimes by degree of intention (e.g., murder vs. manslaughter) pre-Orwell? Burr - 24/10/2009 05:23:56 AM 504 Views
Not sure I agree there Isaac - 24/10/2009 02:29:13 PM 493 Views
How about DADT, or employment non discrimination, or federal benefits for civil unions/marriages? Roland00 - 24/10/2009 01:23:06 AM 510 Views
See..this is much more important than Hate Crime Legislation, and it actually accomplishes something *NM* Brian - 24/10/2009 01:52:31 AM 183 Views
Agreed, but Roland00 - 24/10/2009 02:12:11 AM 482 Views
I'd be more supportive of hate crime legislation as a whole if it made any real sense to me Brian - 24/10/2009 02:22:46 AM 486 Views
I'm sure the law is not supposed to deter crime, but rather to ensure justice. Burr - 24/10/2009 03:49:58 AM 428 Views
Which is one of the failures of the American Justice system Brian - 24/10/2009 04:53:33 AM 460 Views
Re: I'd be more supportive of hate crime legislation as a whole if it made any real sense to me Roland00 - 24/10/2009 04:07:52 AM 531 Views
Re: I'd be more supportive of hate crime legislation as a whole if it made any real sense to me Brian - 24/10/2009 04:51:43 AM 504 Views
Re: I'd be more supportive of hate crime legislation as a whole if it made any real sense to me Roland00 - 24/10/2009 05:02:27 AM 484 Views
Re: I'd be more supportive of hate crime legislation as a whole if it made any real sense to me Brian - 24/10/2009 05:27:35 AM 463 Views
So it's inherently worse for a gay man to get beaten up than a straight guy? beckstcw - 24/10/2009 03:45:43 AM 606 Views
Doesn't there have to be an indication ... Nate - 24/10/2009 04:33:49 AM 467 Views
Doesn't matter, Same crime, same punishment, with no extra preference given to anyone. beckstcw - 24/10/2009 04:48:22 AM 460 Views
It does matter to what you were saying, though. Nate - 24/10/2009 06:32:32 AM 535 Views
One factor in this I don't like though Isaac - 24/10/2009 01:54:53 PM 478 Views
Correct Roland00 - 24/10/2009 04:55:43 AM 479 Views
All orientations are protected. yew - 24/10/2009 05:17:55 AM 475 Views
Isn't killing or assaulting someone already illegal? beckstcw - 24/10/2009 05:50:15 AM 465 Views
As per my reply to you above: Nate - 24/10/2009 06:42:24 AM 481 Views
I said nothing as to what I think about hate crimes laws. yew - 24/10/2009 06:47:51 AM 479 Views
yes and how many black men are sentenced for attacking white men? random thoughts - 24/10/2009 02:00:26 PM 452 Views
Couldn't say, Ray. yew - 25/10/2009 04:43:12 AM 631 Views
I don't support that anymore then I support hate crime laws. random thoughts - 25/10/2009 02:33:27 PM 498 Views
they need to throw out all of the thought crime laws *NM* random thoughts - 24/10/2009 02:04:30 PM 172 Views
Minor point. Palatine - 24/10/2009 04:46:25 PM 506 Views
Yeah I saw that and kind of scoffed as well Brian - 24/10/2009 07:57:23 PM 492 Views
well since almost everything he said turned out to be BS why not that too? random thoughts - 25/10/2009 02:36:25 PM 486 Views
That's my main objection, yes. Legolas - 25/10/2009 10:50:49 PM 479 Views
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