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Which is one of the failures of the American Justice system Brian Send a noteboard - 24/10/2009 04:53:33 AM
Crimes against certain groups tend to be sentenced more leniently than usual. One can expect more variance in this the more locally and less visibly the case is prosecuted. That is why federal prosecution is a good thing for hate crimes. On the other hand, I'm rather dubious about how hate-crimes legislation mandates sentences. The legislation should increase the minimum sentence for hate crimes, but sentencing should still be capped at the normal maximum sentence.

We focus too much on punishment, and not enough on deterrance and rehabilitation.
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Matthew Shepard act passed Dominic - 23/10/2009 07:54:07 PM 866 Views
Meh Brian - 23/10/2009 08:06:22 PM 481 Views
Federal punishment is usually harsher then state law Ryan - 23/10/2009 09:27:49 PM 472 Views
I honestly don't care that federal law is more harsh Brian - 24/10/2009 01:04:16 AM 463 Views
68-29, eh? Party line division? *NM* TaskmasterJack - 23/10/2009 08:25:07 PM 175 Views
More or less Isaac - 23/10/2009 08:35:10 PM 474 Views
All hate crime legislation is stupid..... trzaska2000 - 23/10/2009 10:15:02 PM 481 Views
I'm sure Orwell would be intrigued by his own prognosticative abilities. LiterateDog - 24/10/2009 12:52:24 AM 490 Views
Didn't we already slice crimes by degree of intention (e.g., murder vs. manslaughter) pre-Orwell? Burr - 24/10/2009 05:23:56 AM 474 Views
Not sure I agree there Isaac - 24/10/2009 02:29:13 PM 459 Views
How about DADT, or employment non discrimination, or federal benefits for civil unions/marriages? Roland00 - 24/10/2009 01:23:06 AM 480 Views
See..this is much more important than Hate Crime Legislation, and it actually accomplishes something *NM* Brian - 24/10/2009 01:52:31 AM 172 Views
Agreed, but Roland00 - 24/10/2009 02:12:11 AM 451 Views
I'd be more supportive of hate crime legislation as a whole if it made any real sense to me Brian - 24/10/2009 02:22:46 AM 457 Views
I'm sure the law is not supposed to deter crime, but rather to ensure justice. Burr - 24/10/2009 03:49:58 AM 398 Views
Which is one of the failures of the American Justice system Brian - 24/10/2009 04:53:33 AM 430 Views
Re: I'd be more supportive of hate crime legislation as a whole if it made any real sense to me Roland00 - 24/10/2009 04:07:52 AM 498 Views
Re: I'd be more supportive of hate crime legislation as a whole if it made any real sense to me Brian - 24/10/2009 04:51:43 AM 469 Views
Re: I'd be more supportive of hate crime legislation as a whole if it made any real sense to me Roland00 - 24/10/2009 05:02:27 AM 448 Views
Re: I'd be more supportive of hate crime legislation as a whole if it made any real sense to me Brian - 24/10/2009 05:27:35 AM 435 Views
So it's inherently worse for a gay man to get beaten up than a straight guy? beckstcw - 24/10/2009 03:45:43 AM 553 Views
Doesn't there have to be an indication ... Nate - 24/10/2009 04:33:49 AM 440 Views
Doesn't matter, Same crime, same punishment, with no extra preference given to anyone. beckstcw - 24/10/2009 04:48:22 AM 429 Views
It does matter to what you were saying, though. Nate - 24/10/2009 06:32:32 AM 505 Views
One factor in this I don't like though Isaac - 24/10/2009 01:54:53 PM 451 Views
Correct Roland00 - 24/10/2009 04:55:43 AM 449 Views
All orientations are protected. yew - 24/10/2009 05:17:55 AM 443 Views
Isn't killing or assaulting someone already illegal? beckstcw - 24/10/2009 05:50:15 AM 436 Views
As per my reply to you above: Nate - 24/10/2009 06:42:24 AM 451 Views
I said nothing as to what I think about hate crimes laws. yew - 24/10/2009 06:47:51 AM 446 Views
yes and how many black men are sentenced for attacking white men? random thoughts - 24/10/2009 02:00:26 PM 421 Views
Couldn't say, Ray. yew - 25/10/2009 04:43:12 AM 597 Views
I don't support that anymore then I support hate crime laws. random thoughts - 25/10/2009 02:33:27 PM 465 Views
they need to throw out all of the thought crime laws *NM* random thoughts - 24/10/2009 02:04:30 PM 160 Views
Minor point. Palatine - 24/10/2009 04:46:25 PM 475 Views
Yeah I saw that and kind of scoffed as well Brian - 24/10/2009 07:57:23 PM 461 Views
well since almost everything he said turned out to be BS why not that too? random thoughts - 25/10/2009 02:36:25 PM 456 Views
That's my main objection, yes. Legolas - 25/10/2009 10:50:49 PM 451 Views
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