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Which is one of the failures of the American Justice system Brian Send a noteboard - 24/10/2009 04:53:33 AM
Crimes against certain groups tend to be sentenced more leniently than usual. One can expect more variance in this the more locally and less visibly the case is prosecuted. That is why federal prosecution is a good thing for hate crimes. On the other hand, I'm rather dubious about how hate-crimes legislation mandates sentences. The legislation should increase the minimum sentence for hate crimes, but sentencing should still be capped at the normal maximum sentence.

We focus too much on punishment, and not enough on deterrance and rehabilitation.
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Matthew Shepard act passed Dominic - 23/10/2009 07:54:07 PM 925 Views
Meh Brian - 23/10/2009 08:06:22 PM 541 Views
Federal punishment is usually harsher then state law Ryan - 23/10/2009 09:27:49 PM 525 Views
I honestly don't care that federal law is more harsh Brian - 24/10/2009 01:04:16 AM 514 Views
68-29, eh? Party line division? *NM* TaskmasterJack - 23/10/2009 08:25:07 PM 196 Views
More or less Isaac - 23/10/2009 08:35:10 PM 525 Views
All hate crime legislation is stupid..... trzaska2000 - 23/10/2009 10:15:02 PM 533 Views
I'm sure Orwell would be intrigued by his own prognosticative abilities. LiterateDog - 24/10/2009 12:52:24 AM 545 Views
Didn't we already slice crimes by degree of intention (e.g., murder vs. manslaughter) pre-Orwell? Burr - 24/10/2009 05:23:56 AM 528 Views
Not sure I agree there Isaac - 24/10/2009 02:29:13 PM 515 Views
How about DADT, or employment non discrimination, or federal benefits for civil unions/marriages? Roland00 - 24/10/2009 01:23:06 AM 533 Views
See..this is much more important than Hate Crime Legislation, and it actually accomplishes something *NM* Brian - 24/10/2009 01:52:31 AM 193 Views
Agreed, but Roland00 - 24/10/2009 02:12:11 AM 504 Views
I'd be more supportive of hate crime legislation as a whole if it made any real sense to me Brian - 24/10/2009 02:22:46 AM 515 Views
I'm sure the law is not supposed to deter crime, but rather to ensure justice. Burr - 24/10/2009 03:49:58 AM 449 Views
Which is one of the failures of the American Justice system Brian - 24/10/2009 04:53:33 AM 488 Views
Re: I'd be more supportive of hate crime legislation as a whole if it made any real sense to me Roland00 - 24/10/2009 04:07:52 AM 555 Views
Re: I'd be more supportive of hate crime legislation as a whole if it made any real sense to me Brian - 24/10/2009 04:51:43 AM 524 Views
Re: I'd be more supportive of hate crime legislation as a whole if it made any real sense to me Roland00 - 24/10/2009 05:02:27 AM 506 Views
Re: I'd be more supportive of hate crime legislation as a whole if it made any real sense to me Brian - 24/10/2009 05:27:35 AM 490 Views
So it's inherently worse for a gay man to get beaten up than a straight guy? beckstcw - 24/10/2009 03:45:43 AM 629 Views
Doesn't there have to be an indication ... Nate - 24/10/2009 04:33:49 AM 495 Views
Doesn't matter, Same crime, same punishment, with no extra preference given to anyone. beckstcw - 24/10/2009 04:48:22 AM 488 Views
It does matter to what you were saying, though. Nate - 24/10/2009 06:32:32 AM 561 Views
One factor in this I don't like though Isaac - 24/10/2009 01:54:53 PM 506 Views
Correct Roland00 - 24/10/2009 04:55:43 AM 500 Views
All orientations are protected. yew - 24/10/2009 05:17:55 AM 496 Views
Isn't killing or assaulting someone already illegal? beckstcw - 24/10/2009 05:50:15 AM 485 Views
As per my reply to you above: Nate - 24/10/2009 06:42:24 AM 511 Views
I said nothing as to what I think about hate crimes laws. yew - 24/10/2009 06:47:51 AM 502 Views
yes and how many black men are sentenced for attacking white men? random thoughts - 24/10/2009 02:00:26 PM 478 Views
Couldn't say, Ray. yew - 25/10/2009 04:43:12 AM 663 Views
I don't support that anymore then I support hate crime laws. random thoughts - 25/10/2009 02:33:27 PM 519 Views
they need to throw out all of the thought crime laws *NM* random thoughts - 24/10/2009 02:04:30 PM 181 Views
Minor point. Palatine - 24/10/2009 04:46:25 PM 528 Views
Yeah I saw that and kind of scoffed as well Brian - 24/10/2009 07:57:23 PM 511 Views
well since almost everything he said turned out to be BS why not that too? random thoughts - 25/10/2009 02:36:25 PM 509 Views
That's my main objection, yes. Legolas - 25/10/2009 10:50:49 PM 502 Views
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