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The greenhouse effect without with the global average temperature would be in the ballpark of -15C? Floffe Send a noteboard - 24/11/2009 03:24:40 PM
you got your myths mixed up

The one discovered in the early 1800's and quantified in the later part of that century? Where water vapour provides around half the effect, maybe 75%? Still a myth?
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No, I am sure global warming is just a myth. </sarcasm> Camilla - 24/11/2009 01:23:50 PM 749 Views
That ice is not melting - everyone knows temperatures aren't going up. snoopcester - 24/11/2009 01:30:12 PM 441 Views
Precisely. Camilla - 24/11/2009 01:31:17 PM 406 Views
*NM* ironclad - 24/11/2009 01:52:03 PM 272 Views
They say that it's vanishing because it's melting... TaskmasterJack - 24/11/2009 01:49:24 PM 412 Views
*NM* Camilla - 24/11/2009 02:20:00 PM 299 Views
While I believe that the climate is changing The Secret Lurker - 24/11/2009 02:10:53 PM 669 Views
Not to excuse tomfoolery of any kind (fun word )... ironclad - 24/11/2009 02:14:41 PM 355 Views
You never deviate from serious and exact wording in your private e-mails? *NM* Camilla - 24/11/2009 02:21:22 PM 279 Views
I think this is a bit more than a deviation. The Secret Lurker - 24/11/2009 02:33:49 PM 602 Views
Sales figures are a good example snoopcester - 24/11/2009 02:48:44 PM 370 Views
Re: I think this is a bit more than a deviation. Camilla - 24/11/2009 02:49:30 PM 503 Views
Climategate is a big scandal.....very damaging to the AGW kool-aid drinkers. trzaska2000 - 24/11/2009 03:53:27 PM 377 Views
Exactly; just look at these guys: Joel - 24/11/2009 05:38:33 PM 654 Views
Greenland was much less icy back in the days when it was first settled. Tom - 24/11/2009 02:29:50 PM 468 Views
From what I understand Camilla - 24/11/2009 02:45:04 PM 537 Views
Bingo - global temp goes up and down via variables way too complicated to know..... trzaska2000 - 24/11/2009 03:44:38 PM 418 Views
No one seriously argues against climate change. The myth is called the greenhouse effect AgentOrange - 24/11/2009 02:31:30 PM 379 Views
Yes they do. Well, depending how seriously you take trzaska2000 and others of his ilk... snoopcester - 24/11/2009 02:53:33 PM 392 Views
I believe copy-right was aiming a bit higher than a specific person. You're not supposed to do that AgentOrange - 24/11/2009 03:17:31 PM 398 Views
But I was just using him as an example - to show that some people who think global warming a myth snoopcester - 24/11/2009 03:27:13 PM 380 Views
I am not as crazy as Joel!!! trzaska2000 - 24/11/2009 03:48:33 PM 512 Views
You keep telling yourself that snoopcester - 24/11/2009 04:31:01 PM 423 Views
That may be the first time I've seen an ad hominem against someone not present. Joel - 24/11/2009 06:13:29 PM 352 Views
trzaska is way beyond joel on the madness-meter. Camilla - 24/11/2009 03:53:09 PM 489 Views
Please explain..... trzaska2000 - 24/11/2009 03:56:51 PM 483 Views
I wouldn't know where to begin. Camilla - 24/11/2009 04:20:38 PM 511 Views
Not for a European, but for an American..... *NM* trzaska2000 - 24/11/2009 04:29:59 PM 269 Views
bull you're middle of the road. LadyLorraine - 24/11/2009 06:11:52 PM 354 Views
Define "middle of the road" then..... *NM* trzaska2000 - 24/11/2009 06:25:59 PM 277 Views
About a hundred meters to the left of you. *NM* Camilla - 24/11/2009 06:59:49 PM 304 Views
That comment is irrelevant without a frame of reference..... trzaska2000 - 24/11/2009 07:24:26 PM 389 Views
Re: That comment is irrelevant without a frame of reference..... Camilla - 24/11/2009 07:25:18 PM 350 Views
I'd agree that you're middle of the road as far as policy goes... Legolas - 24/11/2009 08:10:59 PM 345 Views
That's pretty accurate.....I do enjoy colorful rhetoric! trzaska2000 - 25/11/2009 04:14:25 PM 335 Views
I'm not convinced snoopcester - 24/11/2009 04:34:50 PM 410 Views
That's not exactly what I said. Joel - 24/11/2009 06:06:44 PM 559 Views
I never said anyone is crazy. That is up to individual rafonauts' doctors. *NM* AgentOrange - 24/11/2009 04:02:43 PM 261 Views
You did open a helluva can of worms though, deliberately or not. Joel - 24/11/2009 06:10:57 PM 479 Views
I was ridiculing myself for pointing to you at that earlier post a few days ago *NM* AgentOrange - 24/11/2009 06:22:04 PM 172 Views
Fair enough then. Joel - 24/11/2009 06:24:36 PM 367 Views
Re: You're not supposed to do that Joel - 24/11/2009 06:14:58 PM 344 Views
I submit myself to your punishment AgentOrange - 24/11/2009 06:24:26 PM 505 Views
It's cool, man. Joel - 24/11/2009 06:31:17 PM 367 Views
For the record, I'm sorry I got so huffy over something I was fairly sure you didn't mean seriously. The Name With No Man - 25/11/2009 12:28:46 PM 539 Views
Silly snoop.....my beef is with AGW, not GW in general..... trzaska2000 - 24/11/2009 03:46:15 PM 414 Views
You should be clearer then snoopcester - 24/11/2009 04:30:04 PM 344 Views
The greenhouse effect without with the global average temperature would be in the ballpark of -15C? Floffe - 24/11/2009 03:24:40 PM 375 Views
No no no my friend, do not put words in my mouth AgentOrange - 24/11/2009 03:52:29 PM 435 Views
Re: No one seriously argues against climate change. The myth is called the greenhouse effect Camilla - 24/11/2009 06:09:20 PM 390 Views
Temperature down while CO2 increases for 11 years and counting, no can't be true.... trzaska2000 - 24/11/2009 03:41:41 PM 345 Views
Re: Temperature down while CO2 increases for 11 years and counting, no can't be true.... Camilla - 24/11/2009 03:51:46 PM 409 Views
This was already throughly rebutted in your prior post. and you are still trying it? Sheesh! *NM* everynametaken - 25/11/2009 05:12:19 PM 204 Views
Temp is down since 1998.....this is a fact.....sorry. trzaska2000 - 25/11/2009 05:19:07 PM 321 Views
Again, this was ALREADY ADDRESSED in your prior post. Saying it over and over won't make it true. *NM* everynametaken - 28/11/2009 04:18:30 AM 149 Views
Funny how when they get caught cooking the numbers you libbers just make jokes. dart_board - 26/11/2009 06:37:26 PM 324 Views
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