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The greenhouse effect without with the global average temperature would be in the ballpark of -15C? Floffe Send a noteboard - 24/11/2009 03:24:40 PM
you got your myths mixed up

The one discovered in the early 1800's and quantified in the later part of that century? Where water vapour provides around half the effect, maybe 75%? Still a myth?
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No, I am sure global warming is just a myth. </sarcasm> Camilla - 24/11/2009 01:23:50 PM 979 Views
That ice is not melting - everyone knows temperatures aren't going up. snoopcester - 24/11/2009 01:30:12 PM 657 Views
Precisely. Camilla - 24/11/2009 01:31:17 PM 630 Views
*NM* ironclad - 24/11/2009 01:52:03 PM 369 Views
They say that it's vanishing because it's melting... TaskmasterJack - 24/11/2009 01:49:24 PM 625 Views
*NM* Camilla - 24/11/2009 02:20:00 PM 394 Views
While I believe that the climate is changing The Secret Lurker - 24/11/2009 02:10:53 PM 956 Views
Not to excuse tomfoolery of any kind (fun word )... ironclad - 24/11/2009 02:14:41 PM 578 Views
You never deviate from serious and exact wording in your private e-mails? *NM* Camilla - 24/11/2009 02:21:22 PM 369 Views
I think this is a bit more than a deviation. The Secret Lurker - 24/11/2009 02:33:49 PM 836 Views
Sales figures are a good example snoopcester - 24/11/2009 02:48:44 PM 612 Views
Re: I think this is a bit more than a deviation. Camilla - 24/11/2009 02:49:30 PM 744 Views
Climategate is a big scandal.....very damaging to the AGW kool-aid drinkers. trzaska2000 - 24/11/2009 03:53:27 PM 593 Views
Exactly; just look at these guys: Joel - 24/11/2009 05:38:33 PM 915 Views
Greenland was much less icy back in the days when it was first settled. Tom - 24/11/2009 02:29:50 PM 713 Views
From what I understand Camilla - 24/11/2009 02:45:04 PM 751 Views
Bingo - global temp goes up and down via variables way too complicated to know..... trzaska2000 - 24/11/2009 03:44:38 PM 654 Views
No one seriously argues against climate change. The myth is called the greenhouse effect AgentOrange - 24/11/2009 02:31:30 PM 615 Views
Yes they do. Well, depending how seriously you take trzaska2000 and others of his ilk... snoopcester - 24/11/2009 02:53:33 PM 612 Views
I believe copy-right was aiming a bit higher than a specific person. You're not supposed to do that AgentOrange - 24/11/2009 03:17:31 PM 596 Views
But I was just using him as an example - to show that some people who think global warming a myth snoopcester - 24/11/2009 03:27:13 PM 600 Views
I am not as crazy as Joel!!! trzaska2000 - 24/11/2009 03:48:33 PM 754 Views
You keep telling yourself that snoopcester - 24/11/2009 04:31:01 PM 651 Views
That may be the first time I've seen an ad hominem against someone not present. Joel - 24/11/2009 06:13:29 PM 579 Views
trzaska is way beyond joel on the madness-meter. Camilla - 24/11/2009 03:53:09 PM 736 Views
Please explain..... trzaska2000 - 24/11/2009 03:56:51 PM 744 Views
I wouldn't know where to begin. Camilla - 24/11/2009 04:20:38 PM 726 Views
Not for a European, but for an American..... *NM* trzaska2000 - 24/11/2009 04:29:59 PM 410 Views
bull you're middle of the road. LadyLorraine - 24/11/2009 06:11:52 PM 576 Views
Define "middle of the road" then..... *NM* trzaska2000 - 24/11/2009 06:25:59 PM 366 Views
About a hundred meters to the left of you. *NM* Camilla - 24/11/2009 06:59:49 PM 394 Views
That comment is irrelevant without a frame of reference..... trzaska2000 - 24/11/2009 07:24:26 PM 643 Views
Re: That comment is irrelevant without a frame of reference..... Camilla - 24/11/2009 07:25:18 PM 590 Views
I'd agree that you're middle of the road as far as policy goes... Legolas - 24/11/2009 08:10:59 PM 576 Views
That's pretty accurate.....I do enjoy colorful rhetoric! trzaska2000 - 25/11/2009 04:14:25 PM 555 Views
I'm not convinced snoopcester - 24/11/2009 04:34:50 PM 627 Views
That's not exactly what I said. Joel - 24/11/2009 06:06:44 PM 799 Views
I never said anyone is crazy. That is up to individual rafonauts' doctors. *NM* AgentOrange - 24/11/2009 04:02:43 PM 356 Views
You did open a helluva can of worms though, deliberately or not. Joel - 24/11/2009 06:10:57 PM 706 Views
I was ridiculing myself for pointing to you at that earlier post a few days ago *NM* AgentOrange - 24/11/2009 06:22:04 PM 283 Views
Fair enough then. Joel - 24/11/2009 06:24:36 PM 596 Views
Re: You're not supposed to do that Joel - 24/11/2009 06:14:58 PM 576 Views
I submit myself to your punishment AgentOrange - 24/11/2009 06:24:26 PM 737 Views
It's cool, man. Joel - 24/11/2009 06:31:17 PM 605 Views
For the record, I'm sorry I got so huffy over something I was fairly sure you didn't mean seriously. The Name With No Man - 25/11/2009 12:28:46 PM 773 Views
Silly snoop.....my beef is with AGW, not GW in general..... trzaska2000 - 24/11/2009 03:46:15 PM 639 Views
You should be clearer then snoopcester - 24/11/2009 04:30:04 PM 570 Views
The greenhouse effect without with the global average temperature would be in the ballpark of -15C? Floffe - 24/11/2009 03:24:40 PM 625 Views
No no no my friend, do not put words in my mouth AgentOrange - 24/11/2009 03:52:29 PM 659 Views
Re: No one seriously argues against climate change. The myth is called the greenhouse effect Camilla - 24/11/2009 06:09:20 PM 611 Views
Temperature down while CO2 increases for 11 years and counting, no can't be true.... trzaska2000 - 24/11/2009 03:41:41 PM 563 Views
Re: Temperature down while CO2 increases for 11 years and counting, no can't be true.... Camilla - 24/11/2009 03:51:46 PM 624 Views
This was already throughly rebutted in your prior post. and you are still trying it? Sheesh! *NM* everynametaken - 25/11/2009 05:12:19 PM 300 Views
Temp is down since 1998.....this is a fact.....sorry. trzaska2000 - 25/11/2009 05:19:07 PM 538 Views
Again, this was ALREADY ADDRESSED in your prior post. Saying it over and over won't make it true. *NM* everynametaken - 28/11/2009 04:18:30 AM 241 Views
Funny how when they get caught cooking the numbers you libbers just make jokes. dart_board - 26/11/2009 06:37:26 PM 549 Views
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